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It depends on the firm. I know that Akerman, GrayRobinson, and Shutts have different salaries for different offices (south Florida offices receive higher salaries than central/north Florida). HK and Foley are standardized across all offices now. No idea where GT is at currently because they're so opaque about salary information.VinnyIsMyCousin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:10 pmDo different offices of the same Florida firms (Akerman, HK, GT, GrayRobinson, Shutts, etc) have different associate pay scales for different office locations, or is a firm’s salary scale uniform across its FL offices?
That's what I mean. Akerman Orlando pays less than Akerman Miami (unless that's changed recently). Not sure about the specific salary for each office, but maybe someone else here can provide that for you.VinnyIsMyCousin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:30 pmWhat about for the same firm (like Akerman Miami v. ft Lauderdale v. WPB)?
Which office and what class year is your friend?VinnyIsMyCousin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:53 amFriend got an offer at akerman recently starting at 190
In south Florida? Or north/central?VinnyIsMyCousin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:53 amFriend got an offer at akerman recently starting at 190
I'm at Akerman in Florida currently. The way the system works is that they group offices "based on the similarity of local legal markets." They don't tell us the groupings, but I'm sure Orlando is grouped with Tampa, maybe Jacksonville. I think Miami might be grouped with Fort Lauderdale. For each group, there is a range for each class year. It's not a single number. To add to the complication, I have reason to believe that they have made exceptions from the ranges in some cases -- particularly recently if you're in an in-demand practice area. So it's very hard to give general information.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:05 pmThat's what I mean. Akerman Orlando pays less than Akerman Miami (unless that's changed recently). Not sure about the specific salary for each office, but maybe someone else here can provide that for you.VinnyIsMyCousin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:30 pmWhat about for the same firm (like Akerman Miami v. ft Lauderdale v. WPB)?
ETA: accidental anon. This is axolawtl.
I’m going to guess that it’s likely south Florida if it’s a first year. But who knows—with H&K and Foley at $200k in central Florida now (I think BakerHostetler is still at $175k in Orlando?), Akerman may have felt pressure to raise.VinnyIsMyCousin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:54 pmFirst-year in a Florida office. Not saying anymore for fear of outing
I'm the Akerman anon from above. This is formally a requirement, but it's a requirement of zero significance. I've been here almost four years now and have completely ignored it. I don't even enter non-billables into our time keeping program. I receive bonuses, and no one has mentioned the 400 non-billable hours requirement to me.
Any info on Shutts in central FL? Curious about mid-level and senior expectations.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:41 pmHere's some info I've collected from various sources (peers, this forum, etc.):
- Nelson Mullins lists its salary info on Vault/Firsthand. They start at $135k in Florida offices.
- Phelps in Tampa starts around $125k.
- Shutts in south Florida starts around $150k.
Would also be interested in learning about Akerman's salary data.
- Gunster also lists its salary info on Vault/Firsthand. They start at $140k in central and north Florida, and $160k in south Florida.
Thank you, this is super helpful. If you're up for it, I'd love to chat about this a bit more if you want to PM me?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:02 pmI'm the Akerman anon from above. This is formally a requirement, but it's a requirement of zero significance. I've been here almost four years now and have completely ignored it. I don't even enter non-billables into our time keeping program. I receive bonuses, and no one has mentioned the 400 non-billable hours requirement to me.
This is true. When I was an associate there, as long as you hit 1900 hours, no one cared.motoman92 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:56 pmThank you, this is super helpful. If you're up for it, I'd love to chat about this a bit more if you want to PM me?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:02 pmI'm the Akerman anon from above. This is formally a requirement, but it's a requirement of zero significance. I've been here almost four years now and have completely ignored it. I don't even enter non-billables into our time keeping program. I receive bonuses, and no one has mentioned the 400 non-billable hours requirement to me.
Just went through OCI in Florida and am set on litigation: this is good to know.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:41 pmThis is true. When I was an associate there, as long as you hit 1900 hours, no one cared.motoman92 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:56 pmThank you, this is super helpful. If you're up for it, I'd love to chat about this a bit more if you want to PM me?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:02 pmI'm the Akerman anon from above. This is formally a requirement, but it's a requirement of zero significance. I've been here almost four years now and have completely ignored it. I don't even enter non-billables into our time keeping program. I receive bonuses, and no one has mentioned the 400 non-billable hours requirement to me.
Also, for comp, Akerman is very strange. I was in South Florida in a transactional group. I was close to NY market as were other transactional associates (we were ahead after taxes compared to NY). I knew a 6th year litigation associate in my office making less than me when I was a second year.