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Choate is also strong in IP lit and white collar/government enforcement. I have some friends there that are really happy.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:48 amWanted to know the top firms in the market for litigation. Seems to be a very corporate centric market around life sciences but didn’t know if RG, GP, or WH litigation were highly recognized.
Crane, Poole and Schmidt is a good one, alternatively, Cage, Fish & McBeal.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:27 amBumping this. Any insight on Boston lit departments that are particularly good or bad to work for? I know it'll even vary between groups within a firm, but just general strokes.
+1. WH is a lit-centered firm in general with deep trial experience, and the Boston office is no exception. The Boston office has a lot of IP and Sec lit, but you can find other stuff as well (appellate, general lit, etc.), especially with cases out of the DC office. There's also a lot of good pro bono opportunities. The IP lit group is known for working associates a bit hard, but I know plenty in general lit who put in their 2k hours, pass go, collect their bonus, and repeat. Exit options are good too.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:32 pmFor most litigation, it is WilmerHale then everyone else. WH Boston is a very lit-heavy office. It’s one of the reasons I didn’t like being a transactional associate there.
+1 just for the lol. Working for Denny Crane would likely be a nightmare and hilarious at the same time. Alan Shore too.malibustacy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:16 pmCrane, Poole and Schmidt is a good one, alternatively, Cage, Fish & McBeal.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:27 amBumping this. Any insight on Boston lit departments that are particularly good or bad to work for? I know it'll even vary between groups within a firm, but just general strokes.
Work at one of the big Boston firms and I don’t know where you’re getting “a billion lit associates in your class” from. My office has maybe 10 lit first years, if that.objctnyrhnr wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:39 pmNone of that matters, honestly.
Here’s what you want to do to have good QOL and quality of experience in lit, but this might also apply to other practices as well:
1. Get a list of market-paying biglaw firms that have offices in boston (or any other non nyc city, for that matter) that exist but aren’t that big.
2. Join one of those.
If you end up at a massive boston office like ropes or Wilmer or goodwin or Choate your experience likely just won’t be as good as (off top of head, and in no particular order) white and case, Orrick, foley and Lardner, Dla piper, mofo.
That list is by no means exhaustive but it’s a sample of firms that I believe are market with small-ish offices in boston. They have the fortune 100 clients and do bet-the-company lit as well, but you won’t be competing with a billion lit associates in your class for the choice work.
Looking at the Crane, Poole and Schmidt website I can't tell if it is a gag or not. Is this a real firm?!hangtime813 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:53 pm+1 just for the lol. Working for Denny Crane would likely be a nightmare and hilarious at the same time. Alan Shore too.malibustacy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:16 pmCrane, Poole and Schmidt is a good one, alternatively, Cage, Fish & McBeal.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:27 amBumping this. Any insight on Boston lit departments that are particularly good or bad to work for? I know it'll even vary between groups within a firm, but just general strokes.
No… it’s from Boston Legal. You found an actual website?SamuelDanforth wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:37 amLooking at the Crane, Poole and Schmidt website I can't tell if it is a gag or not. Is this a real firm?!hangtime813 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:53 pm+1 just for the lol. Working for Denny Crane would likely be a nightmare and hilarious at the same time. Alan Shore too.malibustacy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:16 pmCrane, Poole and Schmidt is a good one, alternatively, Cage, Fish & McBeal.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:27 amBumping this. Any insight on Boston lit departments that are particularly good or bad to work for? I know it'll even vary between groups within a firm, but just general strokes.
Denny Crane really bears a striking resemblance to William Shatner...SamuelDanforth wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:37 amLooking at the Crane, Poole and Schmidt website I can't tell if it is a gag or not. Is this a real firm?!hangtime813 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:53 pm+1 just for the lol. Working for Denny Crane would likely be a nightmare and hilarious at the same time. Alan Shore too.malibustacy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:16 pmCrane, Poole and Schmidt is a good one, alternatively, Cage, Fish & McBeal.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:27 amBumping this. Any insight on Boston lit departments that are particularly good or bad to work for? I know it'll even vary between groups within a firm, but just general strokes.
What do you mean by not ideal pedigree? Worked at WH and saw a few CA1.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 9:57 pmNecro but does WH hire CA1 clerks consistently? Even if no ties/not ideal pedigree? Looking for somewhere to land post-clerkship and interested in WH or a lit boutique
Terrible school.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:48 pmWhat do you mean by not ideal pedigree? Worked at WH and saw a few CA1.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 9:57 pmNecro but does WH hire CA1 clerks consistently? Even if no ties/not ideal pedigree? Looking for somewhere to land post-clerkship and interested in WH or a lit boutique
How terrible? I think I’ve seen one or two Suffolk grads (although I think one was valedictorian).Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 12:18 pmTerrible school.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:48 pmWhat do you mean by not ideal pedigree? Worked at WH and saw a few CA1.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 9:57 pmNecro but does WH hire CA1 clerks consistently? Even if no ties/not ideal pedigree? Looking for somewhere to land post-clerkship and interested in WH or a lit boutique
Around there (and similar stats) so that’s a good benchmark for me. Just wondering what doors the clerkship will realistically open up for me if I’m looking for lit in Boston.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 9:11 pmHow terrible? I think I’ve seen one or two Suffolk grads (although I think one was valedictorian).Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 12:18 pmTerrible school.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:48 pmWhat do you mean by not ideal pedigree? Worked at WH and saw a few CA1.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 9:57 pmNecro but does WH hire CA1 clerks consistently? Even if no ties/not ideal pedigree? Looking for somewhere to land post-clerkship and interested in WH or a lit boutique
WH associate here. If you have such a terrible pedigree how did you land the CA1 clerkship? If you graduated at the top of your class from a lower ranked school I would think you'd have a chance. As the previous poster mentioned, we normally pick a couple from the top of the class at Suffolk in any given year. A good reco from your judge wouldn't hurt either.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 9:20 pmAround there (and similar stats) so that’s a good benchmark for me. Just wondering what doors the clerkship will realistically open up for me if I’m looking for lit in Boston.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 9:11 pmHow terrible? I think I’ve seen one or two Suffolk grads (although I think one was valedictorian).Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 12:18 pmTerrible school.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:48 pmWhat do you mean by not ideal pedigree? Worked at WH and saw a few CA1.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 9:57 pmNecro but does WH hire CA1 clerks consistently? Even if no ties/not ideal pedigree? Looking for somewhere to land post-clerkship and interested in WH or a lit boutique
I’ve probably outed myself already, but that’s good to know. I’ll go into this much more optimistically. It’s always hard to gauge how much school rank weighs you down if you have other “shiny” accolades.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 9:48 pmWH associate here. If you have such a terrible pedigree how did you land the CA1 clerkship? If you graduated at the top of your class from a lower ranked school I would think you'd have a chance. As the previous poster mentioned, we normally pick a couple from the top of the class at Suffolk in any given year. A good reco from your judge wouldn't hurt either.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 9:20 pmAround there (and similar stats) so that’s a good benchmark for me. Just wondering what doors the clerkship will realistically open up for me if I’m looking for lit in Boston.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 9:11 pmHow terrible? I think I’ve seen one or two Suffolk grads (although I think one was valedictorian).Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 12:18 pmTerrible school.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:48 pmWhat do you mean by not ideal pedigree? Worked at WH and saw a few CA1.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 9:57 pmNecro but does WH hire CA1 clerks consistently? Even if no ties/not ideal pedigree? Looking for somewhere to land post-clerkship and interested in WH or a lit boutique