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MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:46 pm
by Anonymous User
I noticed Faegre raised salaries to 180k. Any other firms following?

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:42 pm
by kjdsalinger
Idk about any MN firms but Jones Day is at 210k for their Minneapolis office.

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:33 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:46 pm
I noticed Faegre raised salaries to 180k. Any other firms following?
Where did you see this? I'm not seeing anything public, and afaik, they're still at 150k. That's a huge leap to 180k.

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:58 pm
by Anonymous User

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:08 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:33 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:46 pm
I noticed Faegre raised salaries to 180k. Any other firms following?
Where did you see this? I'm not seeing anything public, and afaik, they're still at 150k. That's a huge leap to 180k.
https://abovethelaw.com/2021/07/biglaw- ... -so-lucky/

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:01 am
by Anonymous User
It's safe to assume that Dorsey & Whitney will bump as they are one of Faegre's competitors in that market. Not sure if they can afford the $30,000 jump as that's pretty significant and they just did some special midlevel and senior targeted bumps I think.

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:12 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:01 am
It's safe to assume that Dorsey & Whitney will bump as they are one of Faegre's competitors in that market. Not sure if they can afford the $30,000 jump as that's pretty significant and they just did some special midlevel and senior targeted bumps I think.
I don’t the Minneapolis office got the mid-level bump. It was mostly for SLC, iirc

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:10 am
by Mgiii
kjdsalinger wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:42 pm
Idk about any MN firms but Jones Day is at 210k for their Minneapolis office.
Fish went to 205
GT gave raises as well. Not sure what they start at now.

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:47 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:01 am
It's safe to assume that Dorsey & Whitney will bump as they are one of Faegre's competitors in that market. Not sure if they can afford the $30,000 jump as that's pretty significant and they just did some special midlevel and senior targeted bumps I think.
Good call!

https://abovethelaw.com/2021/07/dorsey-transparency/2/

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:05 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:47 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:01 am
It's safe to assume that Dorsey & Whitney will bump as they are one of Faegre's competitors in that market. Not sure if they can afford the $30,000 jump as that's pretty significant and they just did some special midlevel and senior targeted bumps I think.
Good call!

https://abovethelaw.com/2021/07/dorsey-transparency/2/
Who do we think will match, if any?

I could see some or all of Stinson, Robins Kaplan, & Winthrop.

I seriously doubt Taft (formerly Briggs & Morgan), Lathrop GPM (formerly Gray Plant Mooty), or Fredrikson will keep up, but maybe they'll raise starting salary a tad.

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:58 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:05 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:47 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:01 am
It's safe to assume that Dorsey & Whitney will bump as they are one of Faegre's competitors in that market. Not sure if they can afford the $30,000 jump as that's pretty significant and they just did some special midlevel and senior targeted bumps I think.
Good call!

https://abovethelaw.com/2021/07/dorsey-transparency/2/
Who do we think will match, if any?

I could see some or all of Stinson, Robins Kaplan, & Winthrop.

I seriously doubt Taft (formerly Briggs & Morgan), Lathrop GPM (formerly Gray Plant Mooty), or Fredrikson will keep up, but maybe they'll raise starting salary a tad.
Do any Minnesotans on here know what Fredrikson or Dorsey's scales look like down in Des Moines?

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:56 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:47 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:01 am
It's safe to assume that Dorsey & Whitney will bump as they are one of Faegre's competitors in that market. Not sure if they can afford the $30,000 jump as that's pretty significant and they just did some special midlevel and senior targeted bumps I think.
Good call!

https://abovethelaw.com/2021/07/dorsey-transparency/2/
Think it's a good message or bad one? I feel like this foreshadowing for associates for a no match that will cite different hours programs and bonus programs as the reasoning.

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:42 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:56 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:47 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:01 am
It's safe to assume that Dorsey & Whitney will bump as they are one of Faegre's competitors in that market. Not sure if they can afford the $30,000 jump as that's pretty significant and they just did some special midlevel and senior targeted bumps I think.
Good call!

https://abovethelaw.com/2021/07/dorsey-transparency/2/
Think it's a good message or bad one? I feel like this foreshadowing for associates for a no match that will cite different hours programs and bonus programs as the reasoning.
I am taking this as a good thing as the letter states they expect to raise salaries in view of the market. It also seems like they want to be transparent about the state of the firm.

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:34 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:05 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:47 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:01 am
It's safe to assume that Dorsey & Whitney will bump as they are one of Faegre's competitors in that market. Not sure if they can afford the $30,000 jump as that's pretty significant and they just did some special midlevel and senior targeted bumps I think.
Good call!

https://abovethelaw.com/2021/07/dorsey-transparency/2/
Who do we think will match, if any?

I could see some or all of Stinson, Robins Kaplan, & Winthrop.

I seriously doubt Taft (formerly Briggs & Morgan), Lathrop GPM (formerly Gray Plant Mooty), or Fredrikson will keep up, but maybe they'll raise starting salary a tad.
Taft to 180k

https://abovethelaw.com/2021/07/biglaw- ... boot/?rf=1

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:18 pm
by Anonymous User
I have a screener with Dorsey and Whitney coming up. Inappropriate to ask associate (acquaintance) if they think their firm is going to raise?

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:25 pm
by Iowahawk
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:18 pm
I have a screener with Dorsey and Whitney coming up. Inappropriate to ask associate (acquaintance) if they think their firm is going to raise?
Not inappropriate, but it should come up naturally as part of a conversation about the firm, not be like an email with just that question in it, which would be weird

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:35 am
by Anonymous User
Can someone post the new MN pay scale? I see that the first year salaries are moving to $180k but anyone have the rest of the scale?

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:42 am
by ChickenSalad
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:35 am
Can someone post the new MN pay scale? I see that the first year salaries are moving to $180k but anyone have the rest of the scale?
Speaking only with secondhand knowledge, there isn’t much of a scale. It starts at the first year salary and compresses immediately to varying degrees. And bonuses are pretty modest

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:44 am
by Anonymous User
ChickenSalad wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:42 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:35 am
Can someone post the new MN pay scale? I see that the first year salaries are moving to $180k but anyone have the rest of the scale?
Speaking only with secondhand knowledge, there isn’t much of a scale. It starts at the first year salary and compresses immediately to varying degrees. And bonuses are pretty modest

gotcha. I was hoping there was a published scale somewhere but figures it's compressed

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:06 am
by Wubbles
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:44 am
ChickenSalad wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:42 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:35 am
Can someone post the new MN pay scale? I see that the first year salaries are moving to $180k but anyone have the rest of the scale?
Speaking only with secondhand knowledge, there isn’t much of a scale. It starts at the first year salary and compresses immediately to varying degrees. And bonuses are pretty modest

gotcha. I was hoping there was a published scale somewhere but figures it's compressed
https://abovethelaw.com/2021/07/biglaw- ... lucky/amp/

Here is the Faegre scale

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:43 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:18 pm
I have a screener with Dorsey and Whitney coming up. Inappropriate to ask associate (acquaintance) if they think their firm is going to raise?
FWIW Dorsey released a memo suggesting that they will raise salaries to remain competitive in the market.

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:58 am
by Anonymous User
Ballard Spahr to 170k
Barnes & Thornburg 165k

Source: NALP

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:16 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:58 am
Ballard Spahr to 170k
Barnes & Thornburg 165k

Source: NALP
As OCI season kicks off, it seems like we should probably expect news from the rest of the big MN firms soon, or they will get left in the dust.

Ballard Spahr (formerly Lindquist and Vennum) is not normally a top destination for OCI, but it's going to get way more interest than comparable (or, in my view, better) firms like Fredrikson or Stinson if they're one of the few paying $180,000.

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:54 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:16 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:58 am
Ballard Spahr to 170k
Barnes & Thornburg 165k

Source: NALP
As OCI season kicks off, it seems like we should probably expect news from the rest of the big MN firms soon, or they will get left in the dust.

Ballard Spahr (formerly Lindquist and Vennum) is not normally a top destination for OCI, but it's going to get way more interest than comparable (or, in my view, better) firms like Fredrikson or Stinson if they're one of the few paying $180,000.
I think these firms are more worried about losing good attorneys in the lateral market than they are with recruiting. I am expecting announcements soon.

Re: MN Big Law Salary

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:23 pm
by Anonymous User
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