Pre-OCI 2021 Forum

[Anonymous User]

Does anybody have a CB with DPW or PW? I have a CB set up with a V15 and a V5. I am interested in those two as well, but have heard radio silence from recruiting.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone apply to Hogan Lovells and not receive the video thing afterwards?

[Anonymous User]

Latham is also doing pre-oci

[Anonymous User]

anyone hear back from DC firms about callbacks yet?

[Anonymous User]

Movement is insanely fast. Got two CBs in less than 24hrs, V10 and V15, NYC.

GPA slightly north of a 3.7 at a T6.

I'm not nearly that impressive (probably lower % grade, definitely lower rank school) and I've also gotten a lot of NY hits, 1 V10 and 2 V20 CBs. Nothing on either secondary market I've targeted.

[Anonymous User]

Does anybody have a CB with DPW or PW? I have a CB set up with a V15 and a V5. I am interested in those two as well, but have heard radio silence from recruiting.

Radio silence from DPW here too.

[Anonymous User]

Video screeners from White & Case and Sheppard Mullin--is this meaningful or do they go out to all applicants?

I also got a video screener invitation from W&C. I did not think I'd be very competitive (around top 25% from a t20). Either I was wrong on that or they go out to everyone/almost everyone. I'm going to choose to believe the former and be excited about it.

I have yet to receive a video screener from W&C and applied on Monday. If they do go out to everyone (which is what I initially thought happened), should I assume my application didn't go through and re-apply?

They send the screeners to everyone according to an email they sent. You should reach out to the recruiting contact if you didn't get one.

I didn't get one and I reached out to recruiting yesterday and they said they got my application and they would be in touch. I did the virtual interview in january because I applied for 1L position and got a callback... so I'm thinking maybe they don't want me to do it again? who knows...

What's the deal with this video screener? Is it behavioral or is it "why W&C" type of stuff?

[Anonymous User]

has debevoise started interviewing?

[Anonymous User]

has debevoise started interviewing?

Nothing from Deb DC. Didn't apply to NY

[Anonymous User]

Video screeners from White & Case and Sheppard Mullin--is this meaningful or do they go out to all applicants?

I also got a video screener invitation from W&C. I did not think I'd be very competitive (around top 25% from a t20). Either I was wrong on that or they go out to everyone/almost everyone. I'm going to choose to believe the former and be excited about it.

I have yet to receive a video screener from W&C and applied on Monday. If they do go out to everyone (which is what I initially thought happened), should I assume my application didn't go through and re-apply?

They send the screeners to everyone according to an email they sent. You should reach out to the recruiting contact if you didn't get one.

I didn't get one and I reached out to recruiting yesterday and they said they got my application and they would be in touch. I did the virtual interview in january because I applied for 1L position and got a callback... so I'm thinking maybe they don't want me to do it again? who knows...

What's the deal with this video screener? Is it behavioral or is it "why W&C" type of stuff?

Both

[Anonymous User]

has debevoise started interviewing?

They’ve at least started scheduling, so I would assume yes

[Anonymous User]

For anyone with a Latham NY CB, did you do the behavioral assessment? And if so,( approx) how long after did you get a cb?

[Anonymous User]

Do pre-OCI callbacks materialize into offers at around the same rate as those given for OCI/normal track recruiting? Or are they more selective/higher ROR

[Anonymous User]

do Chicago firms do pre-OCI?

Yes, but they're usually slower/later than NY. Also seems to be a bit more random in terms of who gets interviewed/offered in relation to like grades and stuff

Do pre-OCI callbacks materialize into offers at around the same rate as those given for OCI/normal track recruiting? Or are they more selective/higher ROR

Depends a lot on the firm. I had friends at firms that went through a typical OCI pace during pre-OCI and also had a couple that had early CBs and didn't get offers until regular OCI had started at the same firm

[Anonymous User]

Do pre-OCI callbacks materialize into offers at around the same rate as those given for OCI/normal track recruiting? Or are they more selective/higher ROR

Depends a lot on the firm. I had friends at firms that went through a typical OCI pace during pre-OCI and also had a couple that had early CBs and didn't get offers until regular OCI had started at the same firm

Anyone know how STB’s offer rate is?

[Anonymous User]

do Chicago firms do pre-OCI?

Yes, but they're usually slower/later than NY. Also seems to be a bit more random in terms of who gets interviewed/offered in relation to like grades and stuff

Do pre-OCI callbacks materialize into offers at around the same rate as those given for OCI/normal track recruiting? Or are they more selective/higher ROR

Depends a lot on the firm. I had friends at firms that went through a typical OCI pace during pre-OCI and also had a couple that had early CBs and didn't get offers until regular OCI had started at the same firm

So regardless of the timeframes - is a person who has a callback during pre-OCI more likely to receive an offer than they would be through normal OCI/direct apply. Like how often do pre-OCI callbacks = an offer?

[Anonymous User]

Offer-rates, including pre-OCI, depend on the firm. Some places have a reputation for calling back a lot of people that leads to a low offer-rate after the callback whereas others (SullCrom is one, I think?) tend to weed out most of the rejects before the callback.

But that’s all pre-COVID, where resources were spent on flying people all over the country. The point is that theses offer-rates vary by firm and that any past data on this procedure is likely useless (firms can interview you online easily). Ultimately, I’d think pre-OCI interviews could be more likely (even if slightly) to lead to an offer based purely on the fact that you were pulled out of a very large mass-mail pile. There’s something interesting about you - independently from your school - that got their interest.

[Zzyzx8]

I’m top 1/3 at a T1 that roughly sends a third to BL/Mid, it worth trying Pre-OCI or is it usually reserved for more competitive candidates?

[Anonymous User]

Looking for advice on this. 3.8 from t6 and not certain on lit/corp. Mostly looking at DC and NY. Some firms, like WLRK S&C and Deb say "apply if we arent coming to OCI. Others, like GDC and Cov, dont have any information on their websites. What do I make of that? Also - any other tips appreciated.

[Anonymous User]

Looking for advice on this. 3.8 from t6 and not certain on lit/corp. Mostly looking at DC and NY. Some firms, like WLRK S&C and Deb say "apply if we arent coming to OCI. Others, like GDC and Cov, dont have any information on their websites. What do I make of that? Also - any other tips appreciated.

APPLY EVERYWHERE. This isn't a hard concept. If they aren't taking your app, they'll ignore it or tell you to apply at OCI.

[Anonymous User]

This isn’t necessarily true. They might think less of a candidate for not following instructions, no? Cmon man!

[Anonymous User]

This isn’t necessarily true. They might think less of a candidate for not following instructions, no? Cmon man!

No they won’t. They get plenty of applications and are run by busy people. They aren’t penalizing anyone for showing interest too early.

If you are totally neurotic about this and haven’t read the past 4 pages of people pointing out that almost every V20 firm is interviewing early, just set up a coffee chat with an associate and they’ll probably ask for your materials to forward anyway.

[Anonymous User]

Thank you. But to be clear, I have read the past 4 pages and many of the firms listed havent been discussed in detail. Still looking for information on those listed above

[Anonymous User]

Thank you. But to be clear, I have read the past 4 pages and many of the firms listed havent been discussed in detail. Still looking for information on those listed above

what kind of information do you need? if it’s not specifically mentioned on their website, apply. if it is, apply unless it explicitly says not to. very, very simple concept.

debevoise will be at my schools oci and they still accepted apps and are interviewing. i’m sure that is the case for the others you mentioned. just apply.

eta: you can look at past years’ pre-oci threads if you’re that worried about it. the ‘19 one is probably the best thread

[Anonymous User]

I’m top 1/3 at a T1 that roughly sends a third to BL/Mid, it worth trying Pre-OCI or is it usually reserved for more competitive candidates?

Yes, it's worth trying Pre-OCI. Most of my friends at my T1 with similar BL placement got their offers through pre-OCI. They generally didn't get many interviews just from mass mailing (though some with median grades got a couple of interviews), but it's easy to network and get that to transition into a pre-OCI interview. Reach out to alums from your school at firms, set up an informational interview and see if they can pass on your resume.
But even if you don't network (which you definitely should do), there is no harm in sending pre-OCI applications.