Columbia Law EIP 2021 (Class of '23) Forum

[Anonymous User]

Here with my very low stone Bid list (I have stone by 1/2 a grade). Really hoping for DC but tried to be realistic and load up with large class NYC. I have strong DC ties.

1 Hogan Lovells, Washington, DC
2 Debevoise & Plimpton LLP, New York, NY
3 Covington & Burling LLP, Washington, DC
4 Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton, New York, NY
5 Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher, & Flom, Washington, DC
6 Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP, New York, NY
7 Milbank LLP, New York, NY
8 Ropes & Gray, New York, NY
9 Perkins Coie LLP, Washington, DC
10 Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP, New York, NY
11 Weil Gotshal & Manges LLP, New York, NY
12 Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP, New York, NY
13 DLA Piper US LLP, New York, NY
14 Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton, Washington, DC
15 Mayer Brown LLP, New York, NY
16 Goodwin, New York, NY
17 Norton Rose Fulbright, New York, NY
18 Arnold & Porter LLP, Washington, DC
19 Gunderson Dettmer Stough Villeneuve Franklin & Hachigian LLP, New York, NY
20 Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan, Washington, DC
21 Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP, New York, NY
22 Fried Frank Harris Shriver & Jacobson LLP, New York, NY
23 McDermott Will & Emery LLP, New York, NY
24 Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP, New York, NY
25 Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP, New York, NY
26 King & Spalding LLP, New York, NY - Transactional
27 Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP, New York, NY
28 Kelley Drye & Warren LLP, New York, NY
29 Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP, New York, NY
30 O'Melveny & Myers LLP, Washington, DC
31 Kasowitz Benson Torres LLP, New York, NY
32 Axinn, New York, NY
33 Seyfarth Shaw LLP, New York, NY
34 Cadwalader Wickersham & Taft LLP, New York, NY
35 McGuireWoods LLP, New York, NY
36 Proskauer Rose LLP, Washington, DC
37 McKool Smith, P.C., New York, NY
38 Venable LLP, Washington, DC
39 Squire Patton Boggs LLP, New York, NY
40 Seward & Kissel LLP, New York, NY

[Anonymous User]

Your NY bids are fine matches (Cravath seems ambitious), but hope you gave yourself some FFB breathing room with them, because it's very possible that you strike out completely on DC. You need a lot of NY interviews as backup. The ties are good, but your grades aren't impressive, and DC is very popular with gunners.

[Anonymous User]

I'd drop Cravath for a less-grade-sensitive V10 like Kirkland or Skadden. I'd also pray that DC isn't popular with the Kent/near-Kent people, because low-Stone isn't a great place to be for DC at CLS.

That is good advice, will do. I have my fingers crossed about that DC situation, but I figure I have to shoot my shot and that my list is sufficiently conservative to not make it reckless.

Hoping to hear from folks who can weigh in on whether they agree!

[Anonymous User]

Here with my very low stone Bid list (I have stone by 1/2 a grade). Really hoping for DC but tried to be realistic and load up with large class NYC. I have strong DC ties.

1 Hogan Lovells, Washington, DC
2 Debevoise & Plimpton LLP, New York, NY
3 Covington & Burling LLP, Washington, DC
4 Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton, New York, NY
5 Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher, & Flom, Washington, DC
6 Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP, New York, NY
7 Milbank LLP, New York, NY
8 Ropes & Gray, New York, NY
9 Perkins Coie LLP, Washington, DC
10 Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP, New York, NY
11 Weil Gotshal & Manges LLP, New York, NY
12 Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP, New York, NY
13 DLA Piper US LLP, New York, NY
14 Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton, Washington, DC
15 Mayer Brown LLP, New York, NY
16 Goodwin, New York, NY
17 Norton Rose Fulbright, New York, NY
18 Arnold & Porter LLP, Washington, DC
19 Gunderson Dettmer Stough Villeneuve Franklin & Hachigian LLP, New York, NY
20 Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan, Washington, DC
21 Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP, New York, NY
22 Fried Frank Harris Shriver & Jacobson LLP, New York, NY
23 McDermott Will & Emery LLP, New York, NY
24 Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP, New York, NY
25 Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP, New York, NY
26 King & Spalding LLP, New York, NY - Transactional
27 Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP, New York, NY
28 Kelley Drye & Warren LLP, New York, NY
29 Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP, New York, NY
30 O'Melveny & Myers LLP, Washington, DC
31 Kasowitz Benson Torres LLP, New York, NY
32 Axinn, New York, NY
33 Seyfarth Shaw LLP, New York, NY
34 Cadwalader Wickersham & Taft LLP, New York, NY
35 McGuireWoods LLP, New York, NY
36 Proskauer Rose LLP, Washington, DC
37 McKool Smith, P.C., New York, NY
38 Venable LLP, Washington, DC
39 Squire Patton Boggs LLP, New York, NY
40 Seward & Kissel LLP, New York, NY

The firms generally look fine, though Debovoise is way too high according to FFB and Hogan probably is too. Realistically, unless you are URM, I think it’s pretty likely you’ll strike out on DC unless you get an offer at Cleary or Venable. Steptoe should be included.

[Anonymous User]

1 Hogan Lovells, Washington, DC
2 Covington & Burling LLP, Washington, DC
3 Debevoise & Plimpton LLP, New York, NY
4 Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton, New York, NY
5 Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher, & Flom, New York, NY
6 Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher, & Flom, Washington, DC
7 Milbank LLP, New York, NY
8 Ropes & Gray, New York, NY
9 Perkins Coie LLP, Washington, DC
10 Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP, New York, NY
11 Weil Gotshal & Manges LLP, New York, NY
12 Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP, New York, NY
13 DLA Piper US LLP, New York, NY
14 Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton, Washington, DC
15 Mayer Brown LLP, New York, NY
16 Goodwin, New York, NY
17 Norton Rose Fulbright, New York, NY
18 Arnold & Porter LLP, Washington, DC
19 Gunderson Dettmer Stough Villeneuve Franklin & Hachigian LLP, New York, NY
20 Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan, Washington, DC
21 Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP, New York, NY
22 Fried Frank Harris Shriver & Jacobson LLP, New York, NY
23 McDermott Will & Emery LLP, New York, NY
24 Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP, New York, NY
25 Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP, New York, NY
26 King & Spalding LLP, New York, NY - Transactional
27 Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP, New York, NY
28 Kelley Drye & Warren LLP, New York, NY
29 Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP, New York, NY
30 O'Melveny & Myers LLP, Washington, DC
31 Kasowitz Benson Torres LLP, New York, NY
32 Axinn, New York, NY
33 Seyfarth Shaw LLP, New York, NY
34 Cadwalader Wickersham & Taft LLP, New York, NY
35 McGuireWoods LLP, New York, NY
36 Proskauer Rose LLP, Washington, DC
37 McKool Smith, P.C., New York, NY
38 Venable LLP, Washington, DC
39 Squire Patton Boggs LLP, New York, NY
40 Seward & Kissel LLP, New York, NY

Bumping my bidlist after an underwhelming conversation with OCS. made a few tweaks at the top, any more feedback? others should post your lists too!

[Anonymous User]

If you are gunning for DC at low Stone and no particular tip factors (e.g., targeted diversity demographic or practice area), you should have mind-blowing answers to why DC backed up with specifics. I also have no idea why you have K&S NY Transactional but Quinn DC on the same list. Are you transactional, lit, or open to both?

[Anonymous User]

If you are gunning for DC at low Stone and no particular tip factors (e.g., targeted diversity demographic or practice area), you should have mind-blowing answers to why DC backed up with specifics. I also have no idea why you have K&S NY Transactional but Quinn DC on the same list. Are you transactional, lit, or open to both?

Not that poster, but curious as to what a "mind-blowing answer" looks like. In my case, the type of work I'm interested in is all there and I have a personal interest in being there—I've lived there before and, simply put, it's the city I want to settle down in, etc. Not good enough?

[Anonymous User]

Not that poster, but curious as to what a "mind-blowing answer" looks like. In my case, the type of work I'm interested in is all there and I have a personal interest in being there—I've lived there before and, simply put, it's the city I want to settle down in, etc. Not good enough?

That sounds good--both a strong personal reason for why the firm can reasonably expect you to stay in the area and a professional reason about why DC is where you want to work (e.g., government-facing work, congressional investigations).

But a low Stone person even with some personal ties who just wants to work at Cov or WH or GDC for vague reasons is *probably* not going to make the cut.

[Anonymous User]

Not that poster, but curious as to what a "mind-blowing answer" looks like. In my case, the type of work I'm interested in is all there and I have a personal interest in being there—I've lived there before and, simply put, it's the city I want to settle down in, etc. Not good enough?

That sounds good--both a strong personal reason for why the firm can reasonably expect you to stay in the area and a professional reason about why DC is where you want to work (e.g., government-facing work, congressional investigations).

But a low Stone person even with some personal ties who just wants to work at Cov or WH or GDC for vague reasons is *probably* not going to make the cut.

Thanks, that's helpful (and good to hear!).

[Anonymous User]

How did bidding go for everyone?

[Anonymous User]

How did bidding go for everyone?

got 25 bids, hit the firms I was really aiming for as well. Dont think I'm going to add any but I'm not sure

[Anonymous User]

Godspeed y'all

[Anonymous User]

Wilkie NY CB.

[Anonymous User]

Wilkie NY CB.

That was fast.

[Anonymous User]

Wilkie NY CB.

Likewise.

[Anonymous User]

MoFo callbacks (interviewer JG) are going out.

[Anonymous User]

any one else receive callbacks and how frequent is a same day callback, also what is the latest hour they will call

[Anonymous User]

K&E (IP group, interviewer AR) and MoFo (interviewer JG) callbacks are going out.

[Anonymous User]

Wilkie NY CB.

Same here.

[CLS2023A]

Lmao I need way more people to post on this thread—my anxiety can't take it haha. Have heard of a few Kirkland and Freshfields callback invites going out.

[Anonymous User]

Cahill NY CB.

[Anonymous User]

Cravath NY CB

[Anonymous User]

Cravath NY CB this morning.

[Anonymous User]

DPW NY CB

[Anonymous User]

DPW NY CB