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Hmm it seems that summer classes did not shrink like people were saying
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Howard Law placed 43/133 (32%) into firms 250+/FedClerks for c/o 2019, and according to this thread is placing 18 students into Davis Polk, Hogan Lovells and Paul Weiss NY alone this summer? Do these firms regularly hire a big chunk of Howard Biglaw summers or something?
Someone come remind me about this when c/o 2022 employment stats are published. I promise to laugh a lot at GULC (53% in 2019) if Howard outplaced them.
Someone come remind me about this when c/o 2022 employment stats are published. I promise to laugh a lot at GULC (53% in 2019) if Howard outplaced them.
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I mean...firms are pretty transparently trying to diversify, for some obvious reasons. Being top third of Howard is probably a tremendous place to be in current OCIs.Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:11 pmHoward Law placed 43/133 (32%) into firms 250+/FedClerks for c/o 2019, and according to this thread is placing 18 students into Davis Polk, Hogan Lovells and Paul Weiss NY alone this summer? Do these firms regularly hire a big chunk of Howard Biglaw summers or something?
Someone come remind me about this when c/o 2022 employment stats are published. I promise to laugh a lot at GULC (53% in 2019) if Howard outplaced them.
Re: GULC, I’d love to laugh about that too. Nothing against GULCers but I have personal reasons for wanting to see GULC eat shit.
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Paul Weiss hires plentiful Canadian students these years - their summer last year also hired 10-12 Canadian law students (out of 90 ppl class size), which is approximately the same size with NYU and HLS. They seem to be the only firm that does that (probs bc they are one of the few v10s with a Toronto office, the only other one is skadden, i think?) as they have more demand from their Canadian businessIowahawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:33 pmHuh, 12 Canadians? InterestingAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:22 pmPaul Weiss
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This is true, especially after the shit PW got after their all-white and mostly male partner class not too long ago (NYT reported). Great to see the firms finally taking more initiatives on diversity issuesAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:27 pmI mean...firms are pretty transparently trying to diversify, for some obvious reasons. Being top third of Howard is probably a tremendous place to be in current OCIs.Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:11 pmHoward Law placed 43/133 (32%) into firms 250+/FedClerks for c/o 2019, and according to this thread is placing 18 students into Davis Polk, Hogan Lovells and Paul Weiss NY alone this summer? Do these firms regularly hire a big chunk of Howard Biglaw summers or something?
Someone come remind me about this when c/o 2022 employment stats are published. I promise to laugh a lot at GULC (53% in 2019) if Howard outplaced them.
Re: GULC, I’d love to laugh about that too. Nothing against GULCers but I have personal reasons for wanting to see GULC eat shit.
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I could see firms dipping below median at Howard this year (and in future years).Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:38 pmThis is true, especially after the shit PW got after their all-white and mostly male partner class not too long ago (NYT reported). Great to see the firms finally taking more initiatives on diversity issuesAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:27 pmI mean...firms are pretty transparently trying to diversify, for some obvious reasons. Being top third of Howard is probably a tremendous place to be in current OCIs.Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:11 pmHoward Law placed 43/133 (32%) into firms 250+/FedClerks for c/o 2019, and according to this thread is placing 18 students into Davis Polk, Hogan Lovells and Paul Weiss NY alone this summer? Do these firms regularly hire a big chunk of Howard Biglaw summers or something?
Someone come remind me about this when c/o 2022 employment stats are published. I promise to laugh a lot at GULC (53% in 2019) if Howard outplaced them.
Re: GULC, I’d love to laugh about that too. Nothing against GULCers but I have personal reasons for wanting to see GULC eat shit.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/27/us/p ... -firm.html
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Move aside, UCLA/GULC/whatever, Howard to T14. You heard it here first, folks.
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I thought about this and decided it would hard to disentangle any potential effects of those efforts from general market conditions and year-to-year variance (especially given the small sample sizes). Can say the Howard c/o 2019 outcomes are only a few percentage points between than c/o 2017 and 2018. Whether it was very different for c/o 2020, 2021 or 2022, I can't say. Hard to compare in some sense because none of the other HBCUs place in Biglaw to any meaningful degree (maybe firms are content to only interview at the "best" HBCU?), but Howard definitely gets more firm OCI visits, and job placements, than similarly ranked schools. I would be interested to compare to URM hiring from T14s, if such data ever existed.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:27 pmI mean...firms are pretty transparently trying to diversify, for some obvious reasons. Being top third of Howard is probably a tremendous place to be in current OCIs.Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:11 pmHoward Law placed 43/133 (32%) into firms 250+/FedClerks for c/o 2019, and according to this thread is placing 18 students into Davis Polk, Hogan Lovells and Paul Weiss NY alone this summer? Do these firms regularly hire a big chunk of Howard Biglaw summers or something?
Someone come remind me about this when c/o 2022 employment stats are published. I promise to laugh a lot at GULC (53% in 2019) if Howard outplaced them.
Re: GULC, I’d love to laugh about that too. Nothing against GULCers but I have personal reasons for wanting to see GULC eat shit.
In any event, whatever firms choose to do, I always endorse whatever the best option for a student is. GULC has been trying to pass off its shitty placement stats as "elite" for years and is literally twice the price of Howard, so I will indeed enjoy laughing if they wind up second in their own city.
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Howard LSAT median: 1512013 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:10 pmI could see firms dipping below median at Howard this year (and in future years).Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:38 pmThis is true, especially after the shit PW got after their all-white and mostly male partner class not too long ago (NYT reported). Great to see the firms finally taking more initiatives on diversity issuesAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:27 pmI mean...firms are pretty transparently trying to diversify, for some obvious reasons. Being top third of Howard is probably a tremendous place to be in current OCIs.Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:11 pmHoward Law placed 43/133 (32%) into firms 250+/FedClerks for c/o 2019, and according to this thread is placing 18 students into Davis Polk, Hogan Lovells and Paul Weiss NY alone this summer? Do these firms regularly hire a big chunk of Howard Biglaw summers or something?
Someone come remind me about this when c/o 2022 employment stats are published. I promise to laugh a lot at GULC (53% in 2019) if Howard outplaced them.
Re: GULC, I’d love to laugh about that too. Nothing against GULCers but I have personal reasons for wanting to see GULC eat shit.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/27/us/p ... -firm.html
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Howard's placement is 100% b/c of diversity. (Not to say the students aren't qualified frankly given the low level of intellectual rigor that BL really has). But this Howard circlejerk is pointless given that anyone who isn't a URM won't get BL from a school like Howard or its peers.cisscum wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:06 amHoward LSAT median: 1512013 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:10 pmI could see firms dipping below median at Howard this year (and in future years).Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:38 pmThis is true, especially after the shit PW got after their all-white and mostly male partner class not too long ago (NYT reported). Great to see the firms finally taking more initiatives on diversity issuesAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:27 pmI mean...firms are pretty transparently trying to diversify, for some obvious reasons. Being top third of Howard is probably a tremendous place to be in current OCIs.Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:11 pmHoward Law placed 43/133 (32%) into firms 250+/FedClerks for c/o 2019, and according to this thread is placing 18 students into Davis Polk, Hogan Lovells and Paul Weiss NY alone this summer? Do these firms regularly hire a big chunk of Howard Biglaw summers or something?
Someone come remind me about this when c/o 2022 employment stats are published. I promise to laugh a lot at GULC (53% in 2019) if Howard outplaced them.
Re: GULC, I’d love to laugh about that too. Nothing against GULCers but I have personal reasons for wanting to see GULC eat shit.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/27/us/p ... -firm.html
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Well, Howard is almost uniformly black or multiracial, so non-URMs aren't particularly relevant to them. And I would say it doesn't really have peer schools, since none of the other HBCUs have any meaningful placement stats and similarly ranked schools don't have nearly the same placement or purpose.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:21 amHoward's placement is 100% b/c of diversity. (Not to say the students aren't qualified frankly given the low level of intellectual rigor that BL really has). But this Howard circlejerk is pointless given that anyone who isn't a URM won't get BL from a school like Howard or its peers.
I thought it was noteworthy that they had 18 summers for those three firms alone. If it turns out that maybe you actually have a pretty good shot at Biglaw from there, that would be relevant info for prospective students.
But you're right, this isn't a Howard thread and I have absolutely 0% interest in using this thread to discuss diversity issues.
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Bump for more lists. A large majority of the V100 have announced their summer plans, so there ought to be more class lists floating around out there.
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wow hogan actually cut down their NY summer class while other firms are expanding their NY summer class due to business need.hokay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:52 pmHogan Lovells (74)
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If I’m reading NALP right, that’s a record sized class for Cooley. Much larger than last year. Good for them!
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Wash U not UW? Must have had hella tiesAnonymous User wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:54 pmCooley - 146 (1Ls and 2Ls)
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Previous anon here, oops. Fixed.
Wash U not UW? Must have had hella ties
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Needing 24 schools to fill a 38-person NY class is even more TTT than their casino font.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:33 amShearman & Sterling
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Yeah it was baffling to see people spread this around in the OCI threads. Could not be further from the truthAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:41 pmHmm it seems that summer classes did not shrink like people were saying
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Looks like Shearman had a no more than 3 per school policyMonochromatic Oeuvre wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:11 pmNeeding 24 schools to fill a 38-person NY class is even more TTT than their casino font.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:33 amShearman & Sterling
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In NYC, for sure. Less so in some other markets.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:32 pmYeah it was baffling to see people spread this around in the OCI threads. Could not be further from the truthAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:41 pmHmm it seems that summer classes did not shrink like people were saying
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IIRC it's firms in the midlaw tier that cut everything down. Generic v50 NYC biglaw isn't cutting classes but shops in Baltimore, Pittsburgh, New Orleans, etc., it's a lot dicier so if you were top 25% or whatever at a regional school or a median T10 student looking to go back home, things were tougher.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:32 pmYeah it was baffling to see people spread this around in the OCI threads. Could not be further from the truthAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:41 pmHmm it seems that summer classes did not shrink like people were saying
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I’d believe that, but a lot of the apocalyptic rhetoric a month or two ago was about “generic v50 NYC biglaw”Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:35 amIIRC it's firms in the midlaw tier that cut everything down. Generic v50 NYC biglaw isn't cutting classes but shops in Baltimore, Pittsburgh, New Orleans, etc., it's a lot dicier so if you were top 25% or whatever at a regional school or a median T10 student looking to go back home, things were tougher.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:32 pmYeah it was baffling to see people spread this around in the OCI threads. Could not be further from the truthAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:41 pmHmm it seems that summer classes did not shrink like people were saying
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I would say V10 NY lit either cut size or, at least, was far more selective than transactional from T6.
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