Summer Classes 2021 Edition Forum

[Anonymous User]

Bump - any updates?

[Anonymous User]

For those of you who have completed a conflicts form and are starting your SA in mid-May: have you received any kind of feedback (like, an "all clear") from your firm? Or is it silence by default, and they only reach back out to you if they spot an issue?

[Anonymous User]

For those of you who have completed a conflicts form and are starting your SA in mid-May: have you received any kind of feedback (like, an "all clear") from your firm? Or is it silence by default, and they only reach back out to you if they spot an issue?

Latter I believe.

[Anonymous User]

For those of you who have completed a conflicts form and are starting your SA in mid-May: have you received any kind of feedback (like, an "all clear") from your firm? Or is it silence by default, and they only reach back out to you if they spot an issue?

NYC v10, received an email giving the all-clear after conflicts check, but there was some involved back-and-forth regarding the conflicts after I submitted the initial form.

[loislanejd]

For those of you who have completed a conflicts form and are starting your SA in mid-May: have you received any kind of feedback (like, an "all clear") from your firm? Or is it silence by default, and they only reach back out to you if they spot an issue?

For me it was the latter, and it was just them asking for more detail on something I had put down.

[Anonymous User]

STB Houston list:
Michigan - 1
Cornell- 3
Howard- 1
LSU-1
Georgetown-2
Baylor- 2
UCLA-1
UVA-1
UT-1
Penn-1
UChicago-4
Harvard-1

[gottagetouttahere]

STB Houston list:
Michigan - 1
Cornell- 3
Howard- 1
LSU-1
Georgetown-2
Baylor- 2
UCLA-1
UVA-1
UT-1
Penn-1
UChicago-4
Harvard-1

Two Baylor, one LSU, one UT? How?

[glitterlily]

One of the STB Houston partners went to LSU so they always have 1-2 SAs from there

[Anonymous User]

STB Houston list:
Michigan - 1
Cornell- 3
Howard- 1
LSU-1
Georgetown-2
Baylor- 2
UCLA-1
UVA-1
UT-1
Penn-1
UChicago-4
Harvard-1

Two Baylor, one LSU, one UT? How?

It’s Houston... how is that surprising? UT/Tulane/SMU/UH/Baylor/LSU are pretty much at every firm in that market.

[gottagetouttahere]

STB Houston list:
Michigan - 1
Cornell- 3
Howard- 1
LSU-1
Georgetown-2
Baylor- 2
UCLA-1
UVA-1
UT-1
Penn-1
UChicago-4
Harvard-1

Two Baylor, one LSU, one UT? How?

It’s Houston... how is that surprising? UT/Tulane/SMU/UH/Baylor/LSU are pretty much at every firm in that market.

I'm just surprised to see Baylor place more at STB. I don't think(?) STB has quite the same brand recognition in Houston, just surprised.

[Anonymous User]

STB Houston list:
Michigan - 1
Cornell- 3
Howard- 1
LSU-1
Georgetown-2
Baylor- 2
UCLA-1
UVA-1
UT-1
Penn-1
UChicago-4
Harvard-1

Two Baylor, one LSU, one UT? How?

It’s Houston... how is that surprising? UT/Tulane/SMU/UH/Baylor/LSU are pretty much at every firm in that market.

I'm just surprised to see Baylor place more at STB. I don't think(?) STB has quite the same brand recognition in Houston, just surprised.

Anecdotally, I'm from UT and I know at least one person who was offered at STB Houston and turned down their offer. They're headed to GDC Houston instead. Kirkland also drew heavily from our class and did better/heavier marketing during 1L year.

[Anonymous User]

S&C across office list is out

130 total
25 CLS
21 HLS
17 NYU
10 UVA
8 Penn
7 YLS
6 SLS
Not going thru rest bc scattered

[Anonymous User]

S&C across office list is out

130 total
25 CLS
21 HLS
17 NYU
10 UVA
8 Penn
7 YLS
6 SLS
Not going thru rest bc scattered

So, this leaves 36 S&C summers from a variety of other schools. I'm assuming they are mostly non-T14?

[Anonymous User]

Didn't go through in detail but outside what anon posted, there's a few Dukes, Nwestern, GTowns, UCHI. No michigan. So I'd say most of the rest, like 60%), is not T-14

[Anonymous User]

S&C Total 130

Columbia 25
Harvard 21
NYU 17
UVA 10
Penn 8
Yale 7
Stanford 6
Toronto 6
Northwestern 4
UCLA 4
USC 4
GW 4
U Chicago 2
U Texas 2
Osgoode 1
UC Berkeley 1
Vanderbilt 1
WashU 1
William & Mary 1
BU 1
Cornell 1
Duke 1
Fordham 1
Georgetown 1

[Anonymous User]

S&C across office list is out

130 total
25 CLS
21 HLS
17 NYU
10 UVA
8 Penn
7 YLS
6 SLS
Not going thru rest bc scattered

7 seems like a small YLS contingent for S&C. From prior year threads, I thought it was normally in the 14-16 range (though I dunno, maybe those high years were the anomaly).

Did skittish Yalies get frightened away by the 2020 SA cancellation? Or maybe the sales pitch doesn’t work as well when the firm isn’t buying you a nice dinner at the Union League Cafe?

[Anonymous User]

S&C across office list is out

130 total
25 CLS
21 HLS
17 NYU
10 UVA
8 Penn
7 YLS
6 SLS
Not going thru rest bc scattered

7 seems like a small YLS contingent for S&C. From prior year threads, I thought it was normally in the 14-16 range (though I dunno, maybe those high years were the anomaly).

Did skittish Yalies get frightened away by the 2020 SA cancellation? Or maybe the sales pitch doesn’t work as well when the firm isn’t buying you a nice dinner at the Union League Cafe?

Feels like HLS and CLS took a higher # of spots than in past.

[Anonymous User]

S&C across office list is out

130 total
25 CLS
21 HLS
17 NYU
10 UVA
8 Penn
7 YLS
6 SLS
Not going thru rest bc scattered

7 seems like a small YLS contingent for S&C. From prior year threads, I thought it was normally in the 14-16 range (though I dunno, maybe those high years were the anomaly).

Did skittish Yalies get frightened away by the 2020 SA cancellation? Or maybe the sales pitch doesn’t work as well when the firm isn’t buying you a nice dinner at the Union League Cafe?

lol. What is your point exactly?

[Anonymous User]

S&C across office list is out

130 total
25 CLS
21 HLS
17 NYU
10 UVA
8 Penn
7 YLS
6 SLS
Not going thru rest bc scattered

7 seems like a small YLS contingent for S&C. From prior year threads, I thought it was normally in the 14-16 range (though I dunno, maybe those high years were the anomaly).

Did skittish Yalies get frightened away by the 2020 SA cancellation? Or maybe the sales pitch doesn’t work as well when the firm isn’t buying you a nice dinner at the Union League Cafe?

Yale had about 10-11 last year, and this year there are apparently 21 less summers. I wouldn’t read too much into it.

[Anonymous User]

S&C across office list is out

130 total
25 CLS
21 HLS
17 NYU
10 UVA
8 Penn
7 YLS
6 SLS
Not going thru rest bc scattered

7 seems like a small YLS contingent for S&C. From prior year threads, I thought it was normally in the 14-16 range (though I dunno, maybe those high years were the anomaly).

Did skittish Yalies get frightened away by the 2020 SA cancellation? Or maybe the sales pitch doesn’t work as well when the firm isn’t buying you a nice dinner at the Union League Cafe?

Yale had about 10-11 last year, and this year there are apparently 21 less summers. I wouldn’t read too much into it.

interesting... i think most of the peer firms have been expanding their summer class, but s&c cut down numbers? I thought based on AM100 number they did fine last year, since there are more business need, why not hire more?

[Anonymous User]

S&C across office list is out

130 total
25 CLS
21 HLS
17 NYU
10 UVA
8 Penn
7 YLS
6 SLS
Not going thru rest bc scattered

7 seems like a small YLS contingent for S&C. From prior year threads, I thought it was normally in the 14-16 range (though I dunno, maybe those high years were the anomaly).

Did skittish Yalies get frightened away by the 2020 SA cancellation? Or maybe the sales pitch doesn’t work as well when the firm isn’t buying you a nice dinner at the Union League Cafe?

Yale had about 10-11 last year, and this year there are apparently 21 less summers. I wouldn’t read too much into it.

interesting... i think most of the peer firms have been expanding their summer class, but s&c cut down numbers? I thought based on AM100 number they did fine last year, since there are more business need, why not hire more?

They might not have added the 3L pre-clerks to the list yet.

[Anonymous User]

S&C across office list is out

130 total
25 CLS
21 HLS
17 NYU
10 UVA
8 Penn
7 YLS
6 SLS
Not going thru rest bc scattered

7 seems like a small YLS contingent for S&C. From prior year threads, I thought it was normally in the 14-16 range (though I dunno, maybe those high years were the anomaly).

Did skittish Yalies get frightened away by the 2020 SA cancellation? Or maybe the sales pitch doesn’t work as well when the firm isn’t buying you a nice dinner at the Union League Cafe?

Yale had about 10-11 last year, and this year there are apparently 21 less summers. I wouldn’t read too much into it.

interesting... i think most of the peer firms have been expanding their summer class, but s&c cut down numbers? I thought based on AM100 number they did fine last year, since there are more business need, why not hire more?

They might not have added the 3L pre-clerks to the list yet.

still, would the number of pre-clerk be close to 20-30? maybe they have enough attorneys to handle business right now so don't feel the need to hire a lot more (or they think the market is going to cool down soon)

[Anonymous User]

Interested in the large NY classes ... anybody have: Cravath, SullCrom, STB, Cleary, Skadden, Debevoise, etc.?

happy monday y'all, let's put some numbers on the board. As tedious as ctrl+F tallying your class list is, I promise it's less tedious than studying for your Corporations exam.

[Anonymous User]

If people care about Irell:
Stanford-1
Harvard-2
Penn-1
Berkeley-2
UCLA-2
USC-2
UC Irvine-1

[Anonymous User]

If people care about Irell:
Stanford-1
Harvard-2
Penn-1
Berkeley-2
UCLA-2
USC-2
UC Irvine-1

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