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No-Offer Firms Within V25?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:23 pm
by Anonymous User
I've been looking at the NALP data for the V25 firms as I make my final choice. It seems like these firms almost always have an entering class that is 100% the size of the previous summer. But can't firms no-offer 2L SA's, then cover this up by hiring people during 3L?

My question boils down to: are the V25 basically all 100% offer firms, or are there a few that are less safe?

Re: No-Offer Firms Within V25?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:30 pm
by jackshunger
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:23 pm
I've been looking at the NALP data for the V25 firms as I make my final choice. It seems like these firms almost always have an entering class that is 100% the size of the previous summer. But can't firms no-offer 2L SA's, then cover this up by hiring people during 3L?

My question boils down to: are the V25 basically all 100% offer firms, or are there a few that are less safe?
The better question is which firms are cold offering people.

Re: No-Offer Firms Within V25?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:37 pm
by bcwbcwbcw
Not to side with management but every no offer I’ve heard about second-hand in this tier of firm has been for egregious misconduct of some kind. (Yes, I understand there are two sides to every story, yadda yadda, but still...)

Not saying that unjustified no offers aren’t happening, though.

Re: No-Offer Firms Within V25?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:20 pm
by Anonymous User
bcwbcwbcw wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:37 pm
Not to side with management but every no offer I’ve heard about second-hand in this tier of firm has been for egregious misconduct of some kind. (Yes, I understand there are two sides to every story, yadda yadda, but still...)

Not saying that unjustified no offers aren’t happening, though.
^ This. I've heard of no-offers but they all relate to conduct that the offender would 100% know ahead of time would result in a cold offer if that conduct was discovered.

Cold offers are a much bigger deal.

Re: No-Offer Firms Within V25?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:40 pm
by Anonymous User
Are "cold offers" common in this tier of firm? I assume it would depend on how you define it, but are we talking 10% of a summer class of ~60?