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How important is having a journal on resume for biglaw litigation?
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:47 am
by Anonymous User
Title says everything. Joining a v10 litigation group this fall/winter. It seems like everyone is on a journal except me. Am I kind of screwed in terms of career advancement? Will I be better off switching to corporate?
Re: How important is having a journal on resume for biglaw litigation?
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:55 am
by jarofsoup
No one cares about journal once you get a job. Just do good work.
Re: How important is having a journal on resume for biglaw litigation?
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:23 pm
by snehpets
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:47 am
Title says everything. Joining a v10 litigation group this fall/winter. It seems like everyone is on a journal except me. Am I kind of screwed in terms of career advancement? Will I be better off switching to corporate?
Other than the small handful of people who like to remind everyone that they were on their school’s law review, I have literally never heard anyone discussing journals post-law school. I certainly have no idea what journals (if any) anyone I work with might have been on. The only time my journal work has even been remotely relevant is MAYBE when bluebooking, but I still have to check the bluebook whenever I have to cite anything other than a case.
Re: How important is having a journal on resume for biglaw litigation?
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:59 pm
by Whatislaw
Exactly what was said above.
Re: How important is having a journal on resume for biglaw litigation?
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:39 pm
by Anonymous User
This is a very tenuous connection, but there are some firms that care about clerkships, or require clerkships to return to the firm and/or advance, and journal membership is usually an important factor for getting a clerkship (but there are also judges who don't care about clerkships). Outside of this very narrow category of firms, no one gives a crap.
Re: How important is having a journal on resume for biglaw litigation?
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:12 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:39 pm
This is a very tenuous connection, but there are some firms that care about clerkships, or require clerkships to return to the firm and/or advance, and journal membership is usually an important factor for getting a clerkship (but there are also judges who don't care about clerkships). Outside of this very narrow category of firms, no one gives a crap.
Is it safe to say those firms are litigation boutiques, so not biglaw?
Re: How important is having a journal on resume for biglaw litigation?
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:46 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:12 am
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:39 pm
This is a very tenuous connection, but there are some firms that care about clerkships, or require clerkships to return to the firm and/or advance, and journal membership is usually an important factor for getting a clerkship (but there are also judges who don't care about clerkships). Outside of this very narrow category of firms, no one gives a crap.
Is it safe to say those firms are litigation boutiques, so not biglaw?
Probably, although some lit groups within biglaw (particularly V10) care more about clerkships.
Re: How important is having a journal on resume for biglaw litigation?
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:49 pm
by sparty99
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:47 am
Title says everything. Joining a v10 litigation group this fall/winter. It seems like everyone is on a journal except me. Am I kind of screwed in terms of career advancement? Will I be better off switching to corporate?
This is a dumb question.
Re: How important is having a journal on resume for biglaw litigation?
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:29 pm
by Wild Card
law review membership signals that you know the rules of English grammar and the Bluebook citation rules
both are very important to know, and it's conceivable that you might not have a strong grasp on both despite having "made it"
lack of journal membership won't hold you back, but the inability to write and format properly will--partners will blow up on you for this, midlevels who have to redo all of your work will hate your guts for this, and this is what would hold you back
Re: How important is having a journal on resume for biglaw litigation?
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:34 pm
by purplegoldtornado
Wild Card wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:29 pm
law review membership signals that you know the rules of English grammar and the Bluebook citation rules
both are very important to know, and it's conceivable that you might not have a strong grasp on both despite having "made it"
lack of journal membership won't hold you back, but the inability to write and format properly will--partners will blow up on you for this, midlevels who have to redo all of your work will hate your guts for this, and this is what would hold you back
When you are talking about writing that would piss off a midlevel or partner, are you talking primarily about form or substance?
Re: How important is having a journal on resume for biglaw litigation?
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:08 pm
by transferquestiontls
purplegoldtornado wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:34 pm
Wild Card wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:29 pm
law review membership signals that you know the rules of English grammar and the Bluebook citation rules
both are very important to know, and it's conceivable that you might not have a strong grasp on both despite having "made it"
lack of journal membership won't hold you back, but the inability to write and format properly will--partners will blow up on you for this, midlevels who have to redo all of your work will hate your guts for this, and this is what would hold you back
When you are talking about writing that would piss off a midlevel or partner, are you talking primarily about form or substance?
Bump.