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Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:59 pm
by fire_ice
Which NY law firms make you share office beyond first year? If I lateral I would like to avoid those firms.

I love my officemate but I really want to be left alone when I’m working 12+ hrs. Plus s/he is on the phone a lot.

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:03 am
by Anonymous User
NRF is 2 years.

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:06 am
by Anonymous User
I think almost all of the big ones make you share for at least 2 years. Possibly a few let you opt for a solo internal after year 1. Watch out for the ones that make you share for years and years. Weil makes you share until year 5 but it's not uncommon to have to share through year 3.

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:17 am
by Anonymous User
In my experience, if you want your own office, you should probably go to a lower-ranked firm. I work at an Amlaw firm and our NY office has exterior-facing, individual offices for all associates. My friend works at a similar firm that has the same.

I had to share before, so I know how miserable it can be.

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:46 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:I think almost all of the big ones make you share for at least 2 years. Possibly a few let you opt for a solo internal after year 1. Watch out for the ones that make you share for years and years. Weil makes you share until year 5 but it's not uncommon to have to share through year 3.
This is an egregious lie. Weil makes people share 1-2 Years (depending on department) like most other big New York firms

-Weil associate

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:22 am
by Anonymous User
Anyone know if Jones Day NY office makes junior associates share?

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:32 am
by LaLiLuLeLo
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I think almost all of the big ones make you share for at least 2 years. Possibly a few let you opt for a solo internal after year 1. Watch out for the ones that make you share for years and years. Weil makes you share until year 5 but it's not uncommon to have to share through year 3.
This is an egregious lie. Weil makes people share 1-2 Years (depending on department) like most other big New York firms

-Weil associate
But you don’t get an exterior until you’re a fifth year right?

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:12 am
by Anonymous User
LaLiLuLeLo wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I think almost all of the big ones make you share for at least 2 years. Possibly a few let you opt for a solo internal after year 1. Watch out for the ones that make you share for years and years. Weil makes you share until year 5 but it's not uncommon to have to share through year 3.
This is an egregious lie. Weil makes people share 1-2 Years (depending on department) like most other big New York firms

-Weil associate
But you don’t get an exterior until you’re a fifth year right?
Typically that is correct yes

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:27 am
by 2013
Anonymous User wrote:
LaLiLuLeLo wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I think almost all of the big ones make you share for at least 2 years. Possibly a few let you opt for a solo internal after year 1. Watch out for the ones that make you share for years and years. Weil makes you share until year 5 but it's not uncommon to have to share through year 3.
This is an egregious lie. Weil makes people share 1-2 Years (depending on department) like most other big New York firms

-Weil associate
But you don’t get an exterior until you’re a fifth year right?
Typically that is correct yes
So most Weil associates will never have an exterior office.

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:45 am
by nealric
Sharing for 2 years is the norm in NY, unfortunately. The real differentiating factor is whether the firm has interior offices for attorneys are not. Personally, I'd rather share than work in a windowless room.

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:18 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Anyone know if Jones Day NY office makes junior associates share?
Yes, you have to share an internal office for at least your first year

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:22 am
by Anonymous User
nealric wrote:Sharing for 2 years is the norm in NY, unfortunately. The real differentiating factor is whether the firm has interior offices for attorneys are not. Personally, I'd rather share than work in a windowless room.
Weil associate again. Never really understood the obsession with Windows. It’s not like the view changes. I like my solo internal office - it’s nice and quiet and there’s never any annoying glare on my screen or sun in my eyes

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:56 am
by Npret
Anonymous User wrote:
nealric wrote:Sharing for 2 years is the norm in NY, unfortunately. The real differentiating factor is whether the firm has interior offices for attorneys are not. Personally, I'd rather share than work in a windowless room.
Weil associate again. Never really understood the obsession with Windows. It’s not like the view changes. I like my solo internal office - it’s nice and quiet and there’s never any annoying glare on my screen or sun in my eyes
The view from the windows looking north or west towards the park are very nice.

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:01 pm
by nealric
Anonymous User wrote:
nealric wrote:Sharing for 2 years is the norm in NY, unfortunately. The real differentiating factor is whether the firm has interior offices for attorneys are not. Personally, I'd rather share than work in a windowless room.
Weil associate again. Never really understood the obsession with Windows. It’s not like the view changes. I like my solo internal office - it’s nice and quiet and there’s never any annoying glare on my screen or sun in my eyes
To each their own. There's something about being in a windowless room that drives me nuts. I also need to be able to look out the window every so often or I get terrible eyestrain after looking at a computer monitor for hours.

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:05 pm
by Anonymous User
Desmarais LLP only has external offices for attorneys, and everyone gets their own office.

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:26 pm
by LaLiLuLeLo
nealric wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
nealric wrote:Sharing for 2 years is the norm in NY, unfortunately. The real differentiating factor is whether the firm has interior offices for attorneys are not. Personally, I'd rather share than work in a windowless room.
Weil associate again. Never really understood the obsession with Windows. It’s not like the view changes. I like my solo internal office - it’s nice and quiet and there’s never any annoying glare on my screen or sun in my eyes
To each their own. There's something about being in a windowless room that drives me nuts. I also need to be able to look out the window every so often or I get terrible eyestrain after looking at a computer monitor for hours.
Yup it’s one of those things you don’t realize you wanted until you have it. Having natural light and a view is huge for your brain.

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:56 pm
by RaceJudicata
LaLiLuLeLo wrote:
nealric wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
nealric wrote:Sharing for 2 years is the norm in NY, unfortunately. The real differentiating factor is whether the firm has interior offices for attorneys are not. Personally, I'd rather share than work in a windowless room.
Weil associate again. Never really understood the obsession with Windows. It’s not like the view changes. I like my solo internal office - it’s nice and quiet and there’s never any annoying glare on my screen or sun in my eyes
To each their own. There's something about being in a windowless room that drives me nuts. I also need to be able to look out the window every so often or I get terrible eyestrain after looking at a computer monitor for hours.
Yup it’s one of those things you don’t realize you wanted until you have it. Having natural light and a view is huge for your brain.
Natural light > view.

Nyc stinks. Chicago associate - exterior, personal office from year 1 (hell, even as a summer I had a solo exterior office)

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:03 pm
by Anonymous User
DPW varies:

- litigation usually 2-3 years
- corporate - some groups have office mates even as a 5th year

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:06 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:DPW varies:

- litigation usually 2-3 years
- corporate - some groups have office mates even as a 5th year
More like end of 4th/beginning of 5th year in litigation.

Re: Law firms that make you share office

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:11 pm
by Anonymous User
Generally, OMM only has shared offices for first-years and summers. When they're no summer associates, first-years have their own exterior office.