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1st Year Associate- Group of death
Hey everyone,
First year at v100 firm. In DC/Chicago/SF. Only junior in my group in my office. The partners I work for are complete screamers. The people I was working with as a summer are gone, so I was not expecting this. No training, no guidance, and I am getting creamed with work. On track for 2500+ hours. Like I said, no juniors.
Went to a t10 law school, median grades. What do I do? Say between 100k-200k in debt. I know that it is early, but want some general advice. I would try for a clerkship, but grades dont seem good enough. I just need some advice.
First year at v100 firm. In DC/Chicago/SF. Only junior in my group in my office. The partners I work for are complete screamers. The people I was working with as a summer are gone, so I was not expecting this. No training, no guidance, and I am getting creamed with work. On track for 2500+ hours. Like I said, no juniors.
Went to a t10 law school, median grades. What do I do? Say between 100k-200k in debt. I know that it is early, but want some general advice. I would try for a clerkship, but grades dont seem good enough. I just need some advice.
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Just wanted to point out, how can be on track for 2500+ hours when you are a first year?
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Market's hot and it's lateral season... Why not explore your other biglaw options?Anonymous User wrote:Hey everyone,
First year at v100 firm. In DC/Chicago/SF. Only junior in my group in my office. The partners I work for are complete screamers. The people I was working with as a summer are gone, so I was not expecting this. No training, no guidance, and I am getting creamed with work. On track for 2500+ hours. Like I said, no juniors.
Went to a t10 law school, median grades. What do I do? Say between 100k-200k in debt. I know that it is early, but want some general advice. I would try for a clerkship, but grades dont seem good enough. I just need some advice.
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Guessing the OP is going into year 2.Anonymous User wrote:Just wanted to point out, how can be on track for 2500+ hours when you are a first year?
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A lot of judges value work experience, even if your grades aren't amazing. If you're not having luck lateraling to another biglaw firm, or you just really want to clerk, I would throw out apps anyways. Your work experience +t10 school can definitely override median grades for some judges.Anonymous User wrote:Hey everyone,
First year at v100 firm. In DC/Chicago/SF. Only junior in my group in my office. The partners I work for are complete screamers. The people I was working with as a summer are gone, so I was not expecting this. No training, no guidance, and I am getting creamed with work. On track for 2500+ hours. Like I said, no juniors.
Went to a t10 law school, median grades. What do I do? Say between 100k-200k in debt. I know that it is early, but want some general advice. I would try for a clerkship, but grades dont seem good enough. I just need some advice.
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Also consider transferring to another law firm
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Call me a slacker, but how the fuck can you bill 2,500 hours without burning out?
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What group are you in? Really curious
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They do burn out and some, for one reason or another, just continue working while emotionally and/or physically burned outslamdunc wrote:Call me a slacker, but how the fuck can you bill 2,500 hours without burning out?
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They mention clerking, so I'm going to assume lit.Anonymous User wrote:What group are you in? Really curious
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OP here,
Thanks to everyone who responded. I guess I was just venting. I am in lit. For people who think those hours are crazy, I actively turn down work a lot. The problem is my group is super busy but no juniors. Next closest associate is a 5-7 year. So I get everything. I don't wanna say much more than that of the off chance of being outed.
Thanks to everyone who responded. I guess I was just venting. I am in lit. For people who think those hours are crazy, I actively turn down work a lot. The problem is my group is super busy but no juniors. Next closest associate is a 5-7 year. So I get everything. I don't wanna say much more than that of the off chance of being outed.
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This makes me sad because I'm about to start as a first year at a V100 in a small office and ill be the only junior as well.
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Anonymous User wrote:OP here,
Thanks to everyone who responded. I guess I was just venting. I am in lit. For people who think those hours are crazy, I actively turn down work a lot. The problem is my group is super busy but no juniors. Next closest associate is a 5-7 year. So I get everything. I don't wanna say much more than that of the off chance of being outed.
I’m in the complete opposite situation. I’m a junior and the next associate is a 6-8 year. I don’t get work directly most of the time, so I sit and wait for work. Only going to bill around 1500
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