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Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:18 am
by Anonymous User
These are my only two options really for 2l SA. Interested in lit. Any suggestions?

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:26 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:These are my only two options really for 2l SA. Interested in lit. Any suggestions?
If you want lit, you should go JD. Big rep as a top lit firm nationally.

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:21 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:These are my only two options really for 2l SA. Interested in lit. Any suggestions?
You'd most likely get paid more at McDermott (JD has that weird Black Box Compensation scheme) and you'd probably have a better quality of life at McDermott as well. & it has a pretty good Lit practice too

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:34 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:These are my only two options really for 2l SA. Interested in lit. Any suggestions?
Choose McDermott. No bonuses at JD.

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:50 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:These are my only two options really for 2l SA. Interested in lit. Any suggestions?
I'm not sure if you care about money but I hear associates are paid below market at JD :shock: and you'll generally be doing the same work at most of these V100 firms. Something to think about. But I say McDermott too.

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:34 pm
by Anonymous User
I think JD is justifiable here. Your decision basically comes down to money v. exit options. JD lit is much more well respected in LA and nationally than McDermott. JD will likely underpay you, but you'll likely also have better options when you decide to leave. Unless your planning on staying at either firm for 4+ years or want to move to Chicacgo/NY down the road, I'd pick Jones Day.

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:45 pm
by dasq5511
I'd go with JD. Like other posters are saying, JD will have better name recognition and is better known for litigation. Anecdotally, I've done a callback with JD LA and the people seemed fine but nothing special, fairly generic imo. If you look at ATL, you'll see that others are right regarding making less money there, but it's also true that JD has a better track record of holding on to associates in economic downturn.

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:23 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:These are my only two options really for 2l SA. Interested in lit. Any suggestions?
What are your reservations for each firm?

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:31 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:These are my only two options really for 2l SA. Interested in lit. Any suggestions?
What are your reservations for each firm?
Mainly compensation/quality of life for JD and exit options for McDermott

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:42 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:These are my only two options really for 2l SA. Interested in lit. Any suggestions?
What are your reservations for each firm?
Mainly compensation/quality of life for JD and exit options for McDermott
I think McDermott. It seems like ranking doesn't bother you much, and it shouldn't. Exit opportunities might be better at JD because it is more reputable, but that's not to say exit opportunities will not be available at McDermott. You might not even look for exit opportunities if you end up enjoying it. More $$ and a better quality of life at McDermott like posters said above. But if you're into ranking and prestige, then JD. Really just gotta go with your gut. Are you leaning more towards one?

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:48 pm
by Anonymous User
I'd go McDermott. Having more exit options is a plus, but I think it's better to work at a firm where you might find you don't even need them because you actually like the firm/people, and quality of life is definitely not something to undervalue because litigation work is litigation work regardless. If exit options are really important I'd say shoot for a clerkship before or after first associate year because that will open more doors than JD alone.

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:02 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:If exit options are really important I'd say shoot for a clerkship before or after first associate year because that will open more doors than JD alone.
Yea actually this may be the best advice ITT: Go to a market-paying firm (McDermott) for a year or two, then clerk, then consider taking another stab at the job market to see what options pop up.

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:42 pm
by mecarey
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:These are my only two options really for 2l SA. Interested in lit. Any suggestions?
What are your reservations for each firm?
Mainly compensation/quality of life for JD and exit options for McDermott
Go with the people you clicked better with. If they liked you and you liked them, you will enjoy life more and they are more likely to give you interesting/substantive work when they can (as opposed to pure grunt work 24/7).

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:51 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:These are my only two options really for 2l SA. Interested in lit. Any suggestions?
What are your reservations for each firm?
Mainly compensation/quality of life for JD and exit options for McDermott
McDermott. Quality of life is extremely important imo

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:27 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:These are my only two options really for 2l SA. Interested in lit. Any suggestions?
Just curious... what did you decide?

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:28 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:These are my only two options really for 2l SA. Interested in lit. Any suggestions?
Just curious... what did you decide?
McDermott

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:06 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:These are my only two options really for 2l SA. Interested in lit. Any suggestions?
Just curious... what did you decide?
McDermott
Congratulations!!

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:42 am
by Anonymous User
JD, hands down.

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:46 am
by Anonymous User
Great choice. I would’ve chosen McDermott too

Re: Jones Day or McDermott (both LA)

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:51 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:These are my only two options really for 2l SA. Interested in lit. Any suggestions?
Congrats OP on McDermott!! Excellent choice. Have you formally declined JD and accepted your McDermott offer already?