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What are some signs that you are being pushed out of a firm? Would an employer rather have you leave willingly instead of firing you?

Feeling very down today.

Thank you.

Anonymous User wrote:What are some signs that you are being pushed out of a firm? Would an employer rather have you leave willingly instead of firing you?

Feeling very down today.

Thank you.

The most obvious sign is that other people at your level are getting work and good assignments and you aren't. That's a big hint.

If you have a talk with a partner about your hours, etc., even if they swear up and down they're not asking you to leave, they're asking you to leave. Often times this will happen under the guise of just checking in or seeing if anything's wrong. The firm knows what they're doing and it's mostly a ruse so they can say a month or two later that you knew it was coming.

Then they'll just straight up ask you to leave and give you a hard deadline.

Thanks for your response.

I think I’m going to start looking elsewhere.

Anonymous User wrote:Thanks for your response.

I think I’m going to start looking elsewhere.

What are you basing your conclusions on? I think it's very common for attorneys to get worked up about how they are being forced out when there are other, more common and more benign explanations. Your group might be slow, partners may be trying to integrate a new associate, etc.

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:What are some signs that you are being pushed out of a firm? Would an employer rather have you leave willingly instead of firing you?

Feeling very down today.

Thank you.

The most obvious sign is that other people at your level are getting work and good assignments and you aren't. That's a big hint.

If you have a talk with a partner about your hours, etc., even if they swear up and down they're not asking you to leave, they're asking you to leave. Often times this will happen under the guise of just checking in or seeing if anything's wrong. The firm knows what they're doing and it's mostly a ruse so they can say a month or two later that you knew it was coming.

Then they'll just straight up ask you to leave and give you a hard deadline.

I think the bolded statement is too broad. If you do good work, don't decline work, get good reviews, and are well-liked, you can usually survive a few months of low hours in a row. If not? Well, all bets are off.