If you could go to any firm in the country, where would it be?
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:03 pm
It doesn't have to be Cravath or Watchell. I'm talking environment, city, opportunity, hours, etc. The combination of it overall.
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K&L?Anonymous User wrote:K&L and Perkins in Seattle
K&L GatesAnonymous User wrote:K&L?Anonymous User wrote:K&L and Perkins in Seattle
Yea, I got that. Sorry, I meant, "why K&L Gates"? They pay below market, have a weird situation going on with financing and stuff, and are behind the times in personnel management. Why them over F&W, Cooley, WSGR, DLA, DWT, or FP?Anonymous User wrote:K&L GatesAnonymous User wrote:K&L?Anonymous User wrote:K&L and Perkins in Seattle
+1Anonymous User wrote:Hueston hennigan Newport Beach
Yeah, KL Gates is an odd choice. Curious why you picked them.Anonymous User wrote:Yea, I got that. Sorry, I meant, "why K&L Gates"? They pay below market, have a weird situation going on with financing and stuff, and are behind the times in personnel management. Why them over F&W, Cooley, WSGR, DLA, DWT, or FP?Anonymous User wrote:K&L GatesAnonymous User wrote:K&L?Anonymous User wrote:K&L and Perkins in Seattle
Just moved from NYC/DC/SF to Austin and was the best decision I ever made. Downtown is getting a little outrageous with apartment costs given you can live in a luxury apartment in downtown Chicago for less than Austin, but I know plenty of people living 10-20 minutes from downtown that are paying less than $1k/month.Aergia wrote:Market-paying firm in Austin. It's a great city IMO and cost of living isn't much higher than Houston/Dallas if you rent. I imagine if I gave a shit about law I'd want to go to one of the more nationally prestigious shops, but 'tis just a job for me.
Damn that is awesome. I'd take a non big-law job in Austin -- what kind of non-law places even hire former attorneys?Anonymous User wrote:Just moved from NYC/DC/SF to Austin and was the best decision I ever made. Downtown is getting a little outrageous with apartment costs given you can live in a luxury apartment in downtown Chicago for less than Austin, but I know plenty of people living 10-20 minutes from downtown that are paying less than $1k/month.Aergia wrote:Market-paying firm in Austin. It's a great city IMO and cost of living isn't much higher than Houston/Dallas if you rent. I imagine if I gave a shit about law I'd want to go to one of the more nationally prestigious shops, but 'tis just a job for me.
It was extremely hard to break in though with very few open positions, most of which aren't even posted anywhere since there's so many people trying to network their way here. Had no Texas ties but hustled for a year and was constantly out here meeting with people only to hear "we just hired someone and likely won't have another opening for at least a year." Ended up taking a non-biglaw job and still have more money than I can reasonably spend.
Houston and Dallas are slightly similar from COL standpoint but no where close to Austin in QOL.
As a Dallas native, I agree that the QOL in Austin is insanely high. And yes, you can live 10–15 minutes outside for a little over 1k/month. I actually prefer being a 5 miles north or so. It's paradise. Congrats on the job!Yugihoe wrote:Damn that is awesome. I'd take a non big-law job in Austin -- what kind of non-law places even hire former attorneys?Anonymous User wrote:Just moved from NYC/DC/SF to Austin and was the best decision I ever made. Downtown is getting a little outrageous with apartment costs given you can live in a luxury apartment in downtown Chicago for less than Austin, but I know plenty of people living 10-20 minutes from downtown that are paying less than $1k/month.Aergia wrote:Market-paying firm in Austin. It's a great city IMO and cost of living isn't much higher than Houston/Dallas if you rent. I imagine if I gave a shit about law I'd want to go to one of the more nationally prestigious shops, but 'tis just a job for me.
It was extremely hard to break in though with very few open positions, most of which aren't even posted anywhere since there's so many people trying to network their way here. Had no Texas ties but hustled for a year and was constantly out here meeting with people only to hear "we just hired someone and likely won't have another opening for at least a year." Ended up taking a non-biglaw job and still have more money than I can reasonably spend.
Houston and Dallas are slightly similar from COL standpoint but no where close to Austin in QOL.
as someone that either works or or will work former (H&H), just wondering why you say that? Would it be idiotic to leave a firm like that? Why? Thanks!Anonymous User wrote:Holland & Hart or O'melveny & Myers, depending on my age/outlook
Not the person who picked them. I worked there for several years (not seattle) and this is pretty strange (although the Seattle office is super nice and has some great attorneys). They nickel and dime just about everyone. They seem constantly besieged by departures or other issues. They don't have the prestige or brand recognition of a lot of firms, even in seattle. I will say that since I have left they seemed to not only have weathered the storms but continued to "thrive" in that they are going up in Vault, have good financials, etc. But "pick any firm" level? Not sure I get it.Anonymous User wrote:Yeah, KL Gates is an odd choice. Curious why you picked them.Anonymous User wrote:Yea, I got that. Sorry, I meant, "why K&L Gates"? They pay below market, have a weird situation going on with financing and stuff, and are behind the times in personnel management. Why them over F&W, Cooley, WSGR, DLA, DWT, or FP?Anonymous User wrote:K&L GatesAnonymous User wrote:K&L?Anonymous User wrote:K&L and Perkins in Seattle