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C&F Question: Suspended in HS for Drinking, but not on Public Record

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:49 pm
by Anonymous User
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Re: C&F Question: Suspended in HS for Drinking, but not on Public Record

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:51 pm
by rpupkin
What's the wording of the question that you're answering?

Re: C&F Question: Suspended in HS for Drinking, but not on Public Record

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:53 pm
by Anonymous User
Have you ever been placed on probation, dropped, suspended, expelled or otherwise been subjected to
discipline by any institution of learning above elementary school level for conduct which might reflect upon
your character?

Re: C&F Question: Suspended in HS for Drinking, but not on Public Record

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:10 pm
by Anonymous User
The lawyer answer is does that conduct reflect on you now?

The safe answer is disclose.

Re: C&F Question: Suspended in HS for Drinking, but not on Public Record

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:16 pm
by Anonymous User
I think I'm just going to disclose, but I'm asking whether I should be worried? Or is this standard? Like it happened over ten years ago..

Re: C&F Question: Suspended in HS for Drinking, but not on Public Record

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:27 pm
by Anonymous User
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Re: C&F Question: Suspended in HS for Drinking, but not on Public Record

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:54 pm
by rpupkin
Anonymous User wrote:Have you ever been placed on probation, dropped, suspended, expelled or otherwise been subjected to
discipline by any institution of learning above elementary school level for conduct which might reflect upon your character?
The bolded makes this a fairly easy "disclose" call. And, no, I don't think you have serious reason for worry.

Re: C&F Question: Suspended in HS for Drinking, but not on Public Record

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:44 pm
by RaceJudicata
This is one of those freebie C&F questions. C&F almost certainly won't give a crap about this, so by disclosing you are giving yourself credibility (e.g., if s/he told the truth about this stupid high school thing, they are probably telling truth about everything else).

Obviously, I've never been in C&F folk's shoes, so idk their thought process -- but this would certainly be mine.

Re: C&F Question: Suspended in HS for Drinking, but not on Public Record

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:02 pm
by Anonymous User
Different anon - what if the high school incident had to do with plagiarism on an essay. Happened as a freshman in high school, like 12 years ago. Going to disclose, but wondering what to expect. Planning to explain the incident and note that I learned a lesson from it etc. No other incidents in my file, for what it’s worth. Thoughts?

Re: C&F Question: Suspended in HS for Drinking, but not on Public Record

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:51 pm
by rpupkin
Anonymous User wrote:Different anon - what if the high school incident had to do with plagiarism on an essay. Happened as a freshman in high school, like 12 years ago. Going to disclose, but wondering what to expect. Planning to explain the incident and note that I learned a lesson from it etc. No other incidents in my file, for what it’s worth. Thoughts?
If you did it in undergrad, it would be a significant issue. If you did it in law school, it would probably be disqualifying.

But as a freshman in high school? I think it's unlikely to be a problem.

Re: C&F Question: Suspended in HS for Drinking, but not on Public Record

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:18 pm
by Anonymous User
rpupkin wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Different anon - what if the high school incident had to do with plagiarism on an essay. Happened as a freshman in high school, like 12 years ago. Going to disclose, but wondering what to expect. Planning to explain the incident and note that I learned a lesson from it etc. No other incidents in my file, for what it’s worth. Thoughts?
If you did it in undergrad, it would be a significant issue. If you did it in law school, it would probably be disqualifying.

But as a freshman in high school? I think it's unlikely to be a problem.
I honestly don't think plagiarism even in undergrad is a big deal if rehab is shown. Maybe an issue in law school, but even then it's excusable if it's an isolated incident.

No joke I knew someone in law school who was convicted of embezzlement as a trader, and he still passed C&F. We even have convicted murders practicing.

Re: C&F Question: Suspended in HS for Drinking, but not on Public Record

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:45 pm
by rpupkin
Anonymous User wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Different anon - what if the high school incident had to do with plagiarism on an essay. Happened as a freshman in high school, like 12 years ago. Going to disclose, but wondering what to expect. Planning to explain the incident and note that I learned a lesson from it etc. No other incidents in my file, for what it’s worth. Thoughts?
If you did it in undergrad, it would be a significant issue. If you did it in law school, it would probably be disqualifying.

But as a freshman in high school? I think it's unlikely to be a problem.
I honestly don't think plagiarism even in undergrad is a big deal if rehab is shown. Maybe an issue in law school, but even then it's excusable if it's an isolated incident.
I guess your state is different, but getting caught cheating in law school is a lot bigger than a "maybe an issue" problem for California C&F.