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Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:28 am
by lake_b
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Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:36 am
by Anonymous User
Do you want to be DE local counsel? If not, choose Philly.

Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:10 am
by lake_b
So even if you do alternative entities work or bankruptcy, it would still be within a local counsel role?

Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:11 am
by Anonymous User
lake_b wrote:So even if you do alternative entities work or bankruptcy, it would still be within a local counsel role?
My non-RLF DE firm takes lead on our bankruptcy matters more often than not

Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:29 am
by Anonymous User
lake_b wrote:So even if you do alternative entities work or bankruptcy, it would still be within a local counsel role?
Alt entities, yes. Above anon is correct w/r/t BR to some extent, but the power dynamic Is such that you would still be de facto second fiddle. It gets weird (read, more complex than I can get into right now) in that BR is often lead counsel as to a subsidiary, whereas forwarding counsel is lead counsel as to a parent company.

Short answer, if you're set on BR, it's a closer call. But as a summer, you don't know which group you will ultimately end up at.

Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:56 pm
by Anonymous User
nvm

Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:39 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
lake_b wrote:So even if you do alternative entities work or bankruptcy, it would still be within a local counsel role?
Alt entities, yes. Above anon is correct w/r/t BR to some extent, but the power dynamic Is such that you would still be de facto second fiddle. It gets weird (read, more complex than I can get into right now) in that BR is often lead counsel as to a subsidiary, whereas forwarding counsel is lead counsel as to a parent company.

Short answer, if you're set on BR, it's a closer call. But as a summer, you don't know which group you will ultimately end up at.
Fully agree with the above. I work in BR and RLF is a fantastic local counsel and involved in the largest cases, but they're not leading restructurings (nor are other DE firms) so keep that in mind.

Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:00 pm
by Anonymous User
Are you married/about to marry and want to settle down and raise a family? If so, go to Delaware - great suburbs around Wilmington, not a bad commute, and a gem of a place on the east coast to raise kids.

Are you not? Go Philly.

Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:14 pm
by RaceJudicata
Anonymous User wrote:Are you married/about to marry and want to settle down and raise a family? If so, go to Delaware - great suburbs around Wilmington, not a bad commute, and a gem of a place on the east coast to raise kids.

Are you not? Go Philly.
I'd much rather be in Philly or south jersey suburbs and it's not close.

Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:53 am
by Anonymous User
slightly different question - what is the process like lateraling into Philly biglaw and what are the best firms to target? (from NY/Chicago/DC/SF biglaw)

Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:27 am
by njdevils2626
RaceJudicata wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Are you married/about to marry and want to settle down and raise a family? If so, go to Delaware - great suburbs around Wilmington, not a bad commute, and a gem of a place on the east coast to raise kids.

Are you not? Go Philly.
I'd much rather be in Philly or south jersey suburbs and it's not close.
Philly is like a 30 minute commute in and out, really not a big deal to live there and work in Wilmington

Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:50 pm
by RaceJudicata
njdevils2626 wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Are you married/about to marry and want to settle down and raise a family? If so, go to Delaware - great suburbs around Wilmington, not a bad commute, and a gem of a place on the east coast to raise kids.

Are you not? Go Philly.
I'd much rather be in Philly or south jersey suburbs and it's not close.
Philly is like a 30 minute commute in and out, really not a big deal to live there and work in Wilmington
I meant that if the determinative factor between working in phila and working in DE was the quality of suburbs, then I'd pick philly burbs (including south jersey).

Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:07 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Are you married/about to marry and want to settle down and raise a family? If so, go to Delaware - great suburbs around Wilmington, not a bad commute, and a gem of a place on the east coast to raise kids.
Are you not? Go Philly.
Some grade A trolling here.

Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:56 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Are you married/about to marry and want to settle down and raise a family? If so, go to Delaware - great suburbs around Wilmington, not a bad commute, and a gem of a place on the east coast to raise kids.
Are you not? Go Philly.
Some grade A trolling here.
There's nothing wrong with Wilmington. I grew up in the suburbs around there and I would move back there in a heartbeat if I could find a job out there. This is coming from someone who has lived 4+ years in "sexy" cities like NY and SF.

Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:42 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Are you married/about to marry and want to settle down and raise a family? If so, go to Delaware - great suburbs around Wilmington, not a bad commute, and a gem of a place on the east coast to raise kids.
Are you not? Go Philly.
Some grade A trolling here.
Definintely not trolling... Wilm downtown is shitty, but once you get outside, it gets really really nice (massive homes, huge yards). Very conducive to family life.

Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:16 pm
by los blancos
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Are you married/about to marry and want to settle down and raise a family? If so, go to Delaware - great suburbs around Wilmington, not a bad commute, and a gem of a place on the east coast to raise kids.
Are you not? Go Philly.
Some grade A trolling here.
The irony of anon shitposting making this "observation"...

Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:16 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Definintely not trolling... Wilm downtown is shitty, but once you get outside, it gets really really nice (massive homes, huge yards). Very conducive to family life.
Got it. I still disagree, but this is a little more reasonable.

Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:47 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:slightly different question - what is the process like lateraling into Philly biglaw and what are the best firms to target? (from NY/Chicago/DC/SF biglaw)
I work at Pepper Hamilton. We'll pretty much take anyone. Standards are low. Submit your resume. Also, just FYI, Pepper pays absurdly below market bonuses, so there's that too. Seriously though, we're hiring. I mean, I'm leaving, and at least in my, there's like 2 associates who are home grown above 4th year because Pepper treats its juniors so badly, but by all means, you can use Pepper to lateral to Philly. Door's open.

(And with that ringing endorsement, I sign off for the evening).

Re: Philadelphia or Wilmington?

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:17 am
by Anonymous User
does anyone have insight into Dechert or Morgan Lewis in Philly? hours/quality of life/compensation/bonuses/face time/etc.