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Okay to ask about offer rate at second look?

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:29 pm
by Anonymous User
Going to a second look next week and I noticed that 5 summers were not offered full time positions in 2016 (according to Vault). Unsure which office, but is it fair game to ask what percentage of summers they typically extend permanent offers to? What is a good way to frame it

Re: Okay to ask about offer rate at second look?

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:30 pm
by EncyclopediaOrange
Yep

Re: Okay to ask about offer rate at second look?

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:40 pm
by BigZuck
I guess maybe you could ask but I'm not really sure what you're hoping to get out of the question. If Vault (or NALP) lists the offer rate what more are you looking for?

Re: Okay to ask about offer rate at second look?

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:45 pm
by Anonymous User
Not original anon. I've heard rumors (not sure if true) of a previous no-offer at Cov. So if I were seriously considering accepting at a firm that's no-offered in the recent past, I'd want to hear more about the no-offers - were they due to fit? Work product? Does the firm make a practice of no-offering a certain # per summer class, or is a no-offer really reserved for rare & exceptional cases?

Re: Okay to ask about offer rate at second look?

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:51 pm
by BigZuck
Anonymous User wrote:Not original anon. I've heard rumors (not sure if true) of a previous no-offer at Cov. So if I were seriously considering accepting at a firm that's no-offered in the recent past, I'd want to hear more about the no-offers - were they due to fit? Work product? Does the firm make a practice of no-offering a certain # per summer class, or is a no-offer really reserved for rare & exceptional cases?
I can't imagine you're going to get a satisfying/real answer from the firm itself. Gossip from law school classmates/TLS would likely be much more helpful IMO.

Re: Okay to ask about offer rate at second look?

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:54 pm
by Anonymous User
I mean, Covington DID have a no-offer

https://www.nalpdirectory.com/employer_ ... gton%22%7D

But-are you planning on being 1 out of 61?

Re: Okay to ask about offer rate at second look?

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:41 pm
by OutCold
Anonymous User wrote:I mean, Covington DID have a no-offer

https://www.nalpdirectory.com/employer_ ... gton%22%7D

But-are you planning on being 1 out of 61?
Just to build on this, when a large summer class at a well-regarded firm has a single no offer, it was without a doubt for fit (ie. they did something the firm couldn't look past). Firms like this aren't so financially sensitive that they will no offer a summer to avoid the cost.