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ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:49 pm
by Nebby
What firms have you practiced against that have the most atrocious (be it work product, demeanor, etc.) counsel? Bonus points for stories
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:51 pm
by A. Nony Mouse
If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:56 pm
by kellyfrost
I don't want to name any names, but their email address ends in "@yahoo.com"
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:00 pm
by SmokeytheBear
I'll say what we're all thinking.
Kirkland.
Kirkland even agrees.
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:12 pm
by clshopeful
firm-wide generalization based off interaction with 1, 2, 3, or 4 attorneys.. cool...
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:20 pm
by Nebby
A. Nony Mouse wrote:If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.
Department of Justice
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:54 pm
by gaddockteeg
Completely anecdotal and I'm certain this is the exception and not the rule: But I have been really unimpressed with the SullCrom lit associates that I've crossed paths with.
I've worked extensively with 3 of them and 2 were both pretty bad. 1 was a lateral to my firm and didn't last more than a year before getting asked to leave. Other was co-counsel at another v5 firm but had lateraled after 4 years at SullCrom. Both had brilliant resumes (federal clerks in competitive districts, CCN+LR, etc) but both were still terrible writers, blew deadlines, etc.
Third S&C guy Ive worked with is still at my firm and he's great and has a shot at partner.
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:59 pm
by A. Nony Mouse
Nebby wrote:A. Nony Mouse wrote:If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.
Department of Justice
Hahahahahahahaha you poor deluded soul.
(By which I mean if you think they're bad opposing counsel you haven't encountered bad opposing counsel yet.)
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:04 pm
by Anonymous User
Munger. by a mile.
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:07 pm
by hiima3L
99% of the time: "Law Offices of [Name]."
I can think of exactly one exception - some dude who is The Guy for his niche.
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:08 pm
by hiima3L
Nebby wrote:A. Nony Mouse wrote:If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.
Department of Justice
Yes, all 10,000,000 DOJ lawyers are bad.
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:11 pm
by jingosaur
Guy with email [firstname][lastname]
law@hotmail.com
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:16 pm
by los blancos
A somewhat well-regarded Chicago lit boutique (that got its ass kicked), including a name partner who was kind of a self-righteous prick.
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:37 pm
by clshopeful
hiima3L wrote:Nebby wrote:A. Nony Mouse wrote:If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.
Department of Justice
Yes, all 10,000,000 DOJ lawyers are bad.
This is what I was referring to. Last thing we need on TLS is even more generalizations. How can this thread even be taken seriously. You work on a case with opposing counsel at firm X. The 3 people you work with are all rude and are disrespectful. Therefore, the entire 12 office, 1200 lawyer firm is rude and disrespectful.
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:49 pm
by sms18
Nebby wrote:What firms have you practiced against that have the most atrocious (be it work product, demeanor, etc.) counsel? Bonus points for stories
Weil Gotshal
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:15 pm
by 84651846190
Quinn
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:20 pm
by LurkerTurnedMember
Jennings Larson & Perden
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:21 pm
by Nebby
clshopeful wrote:hiima3L wrote:Nebby wrote:A. Nony Mouse wrote:If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.
Department of Justice
Yes, all 10,000,000 DOJ lawyers are bad.
This is what I was referring to. Last thing we need on TLS is even more generalizations. How can this thread even be taken seriously. You work on a case with opposing counsel at firm X. The 3 people you work with are all rude and are disrespectful. Therefore, the entire 12 office, 1200 lawyer firm is rude and disrespectful.
This thread was inspired by a colleagues story about a senior at an opposing firm that would legit yell at our counsel on the phone. It sounded absurd
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:32 pm
by cookiejar1
Not necessarily on topic but the last post reminded me of this voicemail and if you haven't heard it yet then you're in for a real treat
http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/24/a ... -internet/
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:36 pm
by Mullens
Apparently this guy is a partner at McDermott in Chicago now. I'm sure he's a treat to work for.
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:38 pm
by acr
Not my story, but heard from a practicing friend that he's had some pretty bad experiences with Jones Day. Said that opposing counsel at Jones Day once yelled at my friend's team over the phone and told one of the attorneys he went to a "third rate law school."
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:54 pm
by jkpolk
ExBiglawAssociate wrote:Quinn
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:00 am
by foregetaboutdre
[quote="cookiejar1"]Not necessarily on topic but the last post reminded me of this voicemail and if you haven't heard it yet then you're in for a real treat
http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/24/a ... -internet/[/ Interesting VM. At first I thought he was yelling at some small firm guy or something, but he was yelling at a NYC Latham associate. Yikes
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:21 am
by Monochromatic Oeuvre
Kirkland is so monolithically dickish that I assume they have some sort of asshole sleep conditioning program there.
Not a liTTTigator but I hear the same thing about Quinn from coworkers.
As far as incompetent, it would be a much shorter list to have the ones who WERE mostly competent.
Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:45 am
by Rahviveh
One of the few good things about being a lawyer is being a dick to opposing counsel.