Does the #1 student at Harvard Law...
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 10:52 pm
Know what it's like to not get called back?
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Yes, it does?A. Nony Mouse wrote:Harvard doesn't rank.
I'm sure you know more about than I do, but not officially, at least according to the grading policies page:lawlorbust wrote:Yes, it does?A. Nony Mouse wrote:Harvard doesn't rank.
Of course someone actually has the highest grades and someone in the admin probably knows that. I just think it's a silly question. (In the OP, I mean.)http://hls.harvard.edu/dept/ocs/employers/hls-grading-policy/ wrote:It is important to highlight that there is no published curve with respect to the distribution of grades and that there are no class rankings.
Was rpupkin #1 at Harvard? Did he clerk at SCOTUS?bearsfan23 wrote:rpupkin wrote:call in
Sears Prizes reveal who was #1 and #2 per class year, if I recalllawlorbust wrote:Yes, it does?A. Nony Mouse wrote:Harvard doesn't rank.
Obviously I'm biased, but underrated post.lakers180 wrote:they probably didn't get called back from yale so i would say so
I'll admit, I lol'd.KissMyAxe wrote:Obviously I'm biased, but underrated post.lakers180 wrote:they probably didn't get called back from yale so i would say so
But seriously, yes, I'm sure the #1 student at HLS might very well not get a callback. We have students here that are arguably #1 every year who miss out on a couple callbacks. I doubt any of them are striking out, but a lot of top students are a little socially awkward and might flub an interview. Once you reach a certain theshold for a firm, it becomes heavily about fit (just like clerkships).
Yeah Stanford used to have this Distinction thing but I have heard that they removed it some years ago . H probably will always stick to some form of ranking system because of class size.lawlorbust wrote:I'll admit, I lol'd.KissMyAxe wrote:Obviously I'm biased, but underrated post.lakers180 wrote:they probably didn't get called back from yale so i would say so
But seriously, yes, I'm sure the #1 student at HLS might very well not get a callback. We have students here that are arguably #1 every year who miss out on a couple callbacks. I doubt any of them are striking out, but a lot of top students are a little socially awkward and might flub an interview. Once you reach a certain theshold for a firm, it becomes heavily about fit (just like clerkships).
Nony: HLS has, like most schools not Stanford or Yale, latin honors that essentially ranks you (imprecisely) at graduation. It's a strong argument against HLS.
Got it. Thanks! (My school gives out actual numbers so it's a different context.)lawlorbust wrote:I'll admit, I lol'd.KissMyAxe wrote:Obviously I'm biased, but underrated post.lakers180 wrote:they probably didn't get called back from yale so i would say so
But seriously, yes, I'm sure the #1 student at HLS might very well not get a callback. We have students here that are arguably #1 every year who miss out on a couple callbacks. I doubt any of them are striking out, but a lot of top students are a little socially awkward and might flub an interview. Once you reach a certain theshold for a firm, it becomes heavily about fit (just like clerkships).
Nony: HLS has, like most schools not Stanford or Yale, latin honors that essentially ranks you (imprecisely) at graduation. It's a strong argument against HLS.
For what it's worth, I know multiple sears prize winners personally from the past few years that chose firms that would not raise eyebrows. Just regular vault ranked, non-top firms. They don't all go for prestige/salary.Anonymous User wrote:1L Sears Prize winners are #1s at Harvard Law. (There are two each year)
The firms these people choose are Susman Godfrey, Wachtell, Williams & Connolly etc, which are the most selective firms in the country.
Can't say for #1, but students in the top 1-5% can and will get dinged over fit at the screener stage. But very rarely. Grades will overcome fit at most but not all firms.unitball wrote:Know what it's like to not get called back?
I personally know just one Sears winner who chose one of the firms I just mentioned.Anonymous User wrote:For what it's worth, I know multiple sears prize winners personally from the past few years that chose firms that would not raise eyebrows. Just regular vault ranked, non-top firms. They don't all go for prestige/salary.Anonymous User wrote:1L Sears Prize winners are #1s at Harvard Law. (There are two each year)
The firms these people choose are Susman Godfrey, Wachtell, Williams & Connolly etc, which are the most selective firms in the country.
Can't say for #1, but students in the top 1-5% can and will get dinged over fit at the screener stage. But very rarely. Grades will overcome fit at most but not all firms.unitball wrote:Know what it's like to not get called back?
2L Sears doesn't count. No idea why you brought it up.Anonymous User wrote:The two 1L Sears Prize winners my year worked at Jenner and Ropes after their 2L year. I think one of the 2L Sears Prize winners worked at DPW (I am not 100% sure but I know it was a NYC V5 and not WLRK). I can think of other examples but this seems to prove the point well enough.
Nah, the better explanation is that culture matters and firms aren't fungible. But you don't get that because you're clearly a dick.Anonymous User wrote:2L Sears doesn't count. No idea why you brought it up.Anonymous User wrote:The two 1L Sears Prize winners my year worked at Jenner and Ropes after their 2L year. I think one of the 2L Sears Prize winners worked at DPW (I am not 100% sure but I know it was a NYC V5 and not WLRK). I can think of other examples but this seems to prove the point well enough.
About Ropes, it's the best firm in Boston and so if the person wanted to work in Boston then that was his or her best option. That was his/her Wachtell.
I think by Jenner you mean DC. Even then there are better firms in DC. That example may prove the point that perfect grades don't guarantee anything. But then we don't really know. Jenner DC may have offered some unique opportunities given that person's preferences.
I mean, in the context of NYC Wachtell and others, think about it. Nobody is stupid enough to decide to work the same hours but get paid less.
Having perfect grades lets you do anything you want unless you are a poor interviewer. You all know this.
And also a retard, if 2L Sears "doesn't count."hlsperson1111 wrote:Nah, the better explanation is that culture matters and firms aren't fungible. But you don't get that because you're clearly a dick.Anonymous User wrote:2L Sears doesn't count. No idea why you brought it up.Anonymous User wrote:The two 1L Sears Prize winners my year worked at Jenner and Ropes after their 2L year. I think one of the 2L Sears Prize winners worked at DPW (I am not 100% sure but I know it was a NYC V5 and not WLRK). I can think of other examples but this seems to prove the point well enough.
About Ropes, it's the best firm in Boston and so if the person wanted to work in Boston then that was his or her best option. That was his/her Wachtell.
I think by Jenner you mean DC. Even then there are better firms in DC. That example may prove the point that perfect grades don't guarantee anything. But then we don't really know. Jenner DC may have offered some unique opportunities given that person's preferences.
I mean, in the context of NYC Wachtell and others, think about it. Nobody is stupid enough to decide to work the same hours but get paid less.
Having perfect grades lets you do anything you want unless you are a poor interviewer. You all know this.
"Doesn't count" in the sense that the question was about "no.1 at Harvard." Obviously you cannot claim you are number 1 when many folks were checked out. This is frankly a retarded thread and I replied because I had plenty of time. What a bunch of sick cunts.lawlorbust wrote:And also a retard, if 2L Sears "doesn't count."hlsperson1111 wrote:Nah, the better explanation is that culture matters and firms aren't fungible. But you don't get that because you're clearly a dick.Anonymous User wrote:2L Sears doesn't count. No idea why you brought it up.Anonymous User wrote:The two 1L Sears Prize winners my year worked at Jenner and Ropes after their 2L year. I think one of the 2L Sears Prize winners worked at DPW (I am not 100% sure but I know it was a NYC V5 and not WLRK). I can think of other examples but this seems to prove the point well enough.
About Ropes, it's the best firm in Boston and so if the person wanted to work in Boston then that was his or her best option. That was his/her Wachtell.
I think by Jenner you mean DC. Even then there are better firms in DC. That example may prove the point that perfect grades don't guarantee anything. But then we don't really know. Jenner DC may have offered some unique opportunities given that person's preferences.
I mean, in the context of NYC Wachtell and others, think about it. Nobody is stupid enough to decide to work the same hours but get paid less.
Having perfect grades lets you do anything you want unless you are a poor interviewer. You all know this.