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"VP of Tax"

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:59 pm
by Anonymous User
Every year I see a handful of tax associates at my current biglaw firm (and peer firms) switch over to Ibanks and companies as "VP of tax." Does anyone here have any experience or information regarding these positions? Is it comparable to transactional tax work at law firms or is it something entirely different (ie tax-driven investments/deals or just legal compliance)?

Re: "VP of Tax"

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:54 pm
by dabigchina
Anonymous User wrote:Every year I see a handful of tax associates at my current biglaw firm (and peer firms) switch over to Ibanks and companies as "VP of tax." Does anyone here have any experience or information regarding these positions? Is it comparable to transactional tax work at law firms or is it something entirely different (ie tax-driven investments/deals or just legal compliance)?
No idea for banks, but at companies the vp tax is usually the top of them totem pole for tax matters. You'll probably need to deal with a little bit of everything, but obviously you will get to leverage down specific projects to your team.

Re: "VP of Tax"

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:59 pm
by kellyfrost
I wonder if it is possible to become a VP of Insurance at a company?

If so, would this be higher or lower ranking than "Chief Risk Management Officer?"

Re: "VP of Tax"

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:32 pm
by hangtime813
dabigchina wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Every year I see a handful of tax associates at my current biglaw firm (and peer firms) switch over to Ibanks and companies as "VP of tax." Does anyone here have any experience or information regarding these positions? Is it comparable to transactional tax work at law firms or is it something entirely different (ie tax-driven investments/deals or just legal compliance)?
No idea for banks, but at companies the vp tax is usually the top of them totem pole for tax matters. You'll probably need to deal with a little bit of everything, but obviously you will get to leverage down specific projects to your team.
+1

You most likely need to know compliance very well too as you may the one signing the federal/state tax returns.

Re: "VP of Tax"

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:54 pm
by dabigchina
hangtime813 wrote:
dabigchina wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Every year I see a handful of tax associates at my current biglaw firm (and peer firms) switch over to Ibanks and companies as "VP of tax." Does anyone here have any experience or information regarding these positions? Is it comparable to transactional tax work at law firms or is it something entirely different (ie tax-driven investments/deals or just legal compliance)?
No idea for banks, but at companies the vp tax is usually the top of them totem pole for tax matters. You'll probably need to deal with a little bit of everything, but obviously you will get to leverage down specific projects to your team.
+1

You most likely need to know compliance very well too as you may the one signing the federal/state tax returns.
Depends on the company. I think the bigger issue is the provision. Those have a steeper learning curve and probably more risk. You will prob have a manager of sec reporting and fed
Tax director but you most likely want to at least be conversant.

Re: "VP of Tax"

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:07 am
by FascinatedWanderer
kellyfrost wrote:I wonder if it is possible to become a VP of Insurance at a company?

If so, would this be higher or lower ranking than "Chief Risk Management Officer?"
Do you ever get tired of contributing nothing of value whatsoever?

Re: "VP of Tax"

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:37 am
by wiz
FascinatedWanderer wrote:
kellyfrost wrote:I wonder if it is possible to become a VP of Insurance at a company?

If so, would this be higher or lower ranking than "Chief Risk Management Officer?"
Do you ever get tired of contributing nothing of value whatsoever?
Kellyfrost contributes a great deal of value and is actually a leading scholar on corn and insurance.

Re: "VP of Tax"

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:40 am
by Nebby
FascinatedWanderer wrote:
kellyfrost wrote:I wonder if it is possible to become a VP of Insurance at a company?

If so, would this be higher or lower ranking than "Chief Risk Management Officer?"
Do you ever get tired of contributing nothing of value whatsoever?
No

Re: "VP of Tax"

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:41 am
by kellyfrost
FascinatedWanderer wrote:
kellyfrost wrote:I wonder if it is possible to become a VP of Insurance at a company?

If so, would this be higher or lower ranking than "Chief Risk Management Officer?"
Do you ever get tired of contributing nothing of value whatsoever?
Whether or not my contributions add nothing of value is pretty subjective. Just like if someone were to post fucking shitty advice about clerkships, the value of those comments would be subjective as well. But to answer your question, no, because I feel like I often contribute value.

Re: "VP of Tax"

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:03 am
by cavalier1138
kellyfrost wrote: Whether or not my contributions add nothing of value is pretty subjective. Just like if someone were to post fucking shitty advice about clerkships, the value of those comments would be subjective as well. But to answer your question, no, because I feel like I often contribute value.
Sometimes your feelings are wrong. This is one of those times.

Re: "VP of Tax"

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:25 am
by kellyfrost
Nebby wrote:
FascinatedWanderer wrote:
kellyfrost wrote:I wonder if it is possible to become a VP of Insurance at a company?

If so, would this be higher or lower ranking than "Chief Risk Management Officer?"
Do you ever get tired of contributing nothing of value whatsoever?
No
Nebby wrote:National beer day and this high IBU high ABV IPA really kicked my butt
You drunk son of a bitch.

Re: "VP of Tax"

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:57 am
by Anonymous User
Can we get back on topic? Anyone know what a VP of tax role is like at a bank?

Re: "VP of Tax"

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:28 am
by Nebby
kellyfrost wrote:
Nebby wrote:
FascinatedWanderer wrote:
kellyfrost wrote:I wonder if it is possible to become a VP of Insurance at a company?

If so, would this be higher or lower ranking than "Chief Risk Management Officer?"
Do you ever get tired of contributing nothing of value whatsoever?
No
Nebby wrote:National beer day and this high IBU high ABV IPA really kicked my butt
You drunk son of a bitch.
You got me! :lol: