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What are you doing to alleviate that kind of daily beating? Sounds like it isnt bad enough to make you want to leave?Anonymous User wrote:My boss yells and screams daily. She's probably the most miserable person I've ever worked with. She's a rainmaker, too, which makes her untouchable in the biglaw world.
I go home and apply for new jobs... seriously. I tried to wait it out for my one year mark but decided to start sending out resumes a week ago.Anonymous User wrote:What are you doing to alleviate that kind of daily beating? Sounds like it isnt bad enough to make you want to leave?Anonymous User wrote:My boss yells and screams daily. She's probably the most miserable person I've ever worked with. She's a rainmaker, too, which makes her untouchable in the biglaw world.
1styearlateral wrote:Can someone explain why it matters if a partner yells at you? I've gotten yelled at before, but I don't lose sight of the fact that a) I'm junior, b) I should focus on what I need to do to improve/not make the same mistakes, and c) the partner has already forgotten about why he/she was yelling. Like seriously, who cares? IMO, the screamers are really only intolerable when you let them get to you.
Well if your daily interaction involves yelling, name calling, and disrespecting, then it takes a toll on you after a few weeks. Who wants to work in a toxic environment...1styearlateral wrote:Can someone explain why it matters if a partner yells at you? I've gotten yelled at before, but I don't lose sight of the fact that a) I'm junior, b) I should focus on what I need to do to improve/not make the same mistakes, and c) the partner has already forgotten about why he/she was yelling. Like seriously, who cares? IMO, the screamers are really only intolerable when you let them get to you.
Because you should have an ounce of self respect.1styearlateral wrote:Can someone explain why it matters if a partner yells at you? I've gotten yelled at before, but I don't lose sight of the fact that a) I'm junior, b) I should focus on what I need to do to improve/not make the same mistakes, and c) the partner has already forgotten about why he/she was yelling. Like seriously, who cares? IMO, the screamers are really only intolerable when you let them get to you.
If you're getting yelled at for something not your fault I think this applies. Otherwise i kinda agree the attitude to have is to shrug it off and not let it bother you. As long as the check clears every week, who cares. I try not to be that emotionally invested in work.LaLiLuLeLo wrote:Because you should have an ounce of self respect.1styearlateral wrote:Can someone explain why it matters if a partner yells at you? I've gotten yelled at before, but I don't lose sight of the fact that a) I'm junior, b) I should focus on what I need to do to improve/not make the same mistakes, and c) the partner has already forgotten about why he/she was yelling. Like seriously, who cares? IMO, the screamers are really only intolerable when you let them get to you.
Getting paid doesn't mean you should just accept not being treated like human being. Nobody should tolerate being screamed at and insulted by anyone, least of all your boss. Even if you screw up you are entitled to some basic level of respect and respectful interaction.lawhopeful100 wrote:If you're getting yelled at for something not your fault I think this applies. Otherwise i kinda agree the attitude to have is to shrug it off and not let it bother you. As long as the check clears every week, who cares. I try not to be that emotionally invested in work.LaLiLuLeLo wrote:Because you should have an ounce of self respect.1styearlateral wrote:Can someone explain why it matters if a partner yells at you? I've gotten yelled at before, but I don't lose sight of the fact that a) I'm junior, b) I should focus on what I need to do to improve/not make the same mistakes, and c) the partner has already forgotten about why he/she was yelling. Like seriously, who cares? IMO, the screamers are really only intolerable when you let them get to you.
I've had both kinds of bosses and the kind that just acts disappointed in you is definitely worse than a screamer.LaLiLuLeLo wrote:Getting paid doesn't mean you should just accept not being treated like human being. Nobody should tolerate being screamed at and insulted by anyone, least of all your boss. Even if you screw up you are entitled to some basic level of respect and respectful interaction.lawhopeful100 wrote:If you're getting yelled at for something not your fault I think this applies. Otherwise i kinda agree the attitude to have is to shrug it off and not let it bother you. As long as the check clears every week, who cares. I try not to be that emotionally invested in work.LaLiLuLeLo wrote:Because you should have an ounce of self respect.1styearlateral wrote:Can someone explain why it matters if a partner yells at you? I've gotten yelled at before, but I don't lose sight of the fact that a) I'm junior, b) I should focus on what I need to do to improve/not make the same mistakes, and c) the partner has already forgotten about why he/she was yelling. Like seriously, who cares? IMO, the screamers are really only intolerable when you let them get to you.
yes, the disappointed parent act is killer.I will be forever susceptible to it too. I can completely tune out someone who is clearly just freaking out but will calm down later, but this... this is a different story.A. Nony Mouse wrote:
Because 1) You should demand respect of yourself by yourself and other and 2) In a less principle-point, if you can't stick up for yourself, people walk over you.1styearlateral wrote:Can someone explain why it matters if a partner yells at you? I've gotten yelled at before, but I don't lose sight of the fact that a) I'm junior, b) I should focus on what I need to do to improve/not make the same mistakes, and c) the partner has already forgotten about why he/she was yelling. Like seriously, who cares? IMO, the screamers are really only intolerable when you let them get to you.
+1 I played college baseball and after that, and if someone doesn't yell at me when I screw up I assume they don't care and then I'm REALLY fucked because I'll be fired soon.Anonymous User wrote:Before law school encountered a lot of "screamers" in athletics. Haven't had one in law so far, but I think being screamed at in athletics DOES actually help you prepare for irrational people in your career FWIW. Basically you just don't pay attention to what they're screaming about, just say you messed up, and try not to make the mistake again. Easier said then done and IMO screaming should have no place in a workplace.
What did you say exactly and did the partner apologize?Bluem_11 wrote:Because 1) You should demand respect of yourself by yourself and other and 2) In a less principle-point, if you can't stick up for yourself, people walk over you.1styearlateral wrote:Can someone explain why it matters if a partner yells at you? I've gotten yelled at before, but I don't lose sight of the fact that a) I'm junior, b) I should focus on what I need to do to improve/not make the same mistakes, and c) the partner has already forgotten about why he/she was yelling. Like seriously, who cares? IMO, the screamers are really only intolerable when you let them get to you.
If I legitimately fuck up, and I cause a major issue in the firm, ya I get why someone's fuse may blow. But I've told a partner who yelled at me over the little-est thing to please take it down a notch unless warranted while I was a first year (obviously did it in a respectful tone and not immediately after the incident). Haven't gotten yelled at since.
Anonymous User wrote:What did you say exactly and did the partner apologize?Bluem_11 wrote:Because 1) You should demand respect of yourself by yourself and other and 2) In a less principle-point, if you can't stick up for yourself, people walk over you.1styearlateral wrote:Can someone explain why it matters if a partner yells at you? I've gotten yelled at before, but I don't lose sight of the fact that a) I'm junior, b) I should focus on what I need to do to improve/not make the same mistakes, and c) the partner has already forgotten about why he/she was yelling. Like seriously, who cares? IMO, the screamers are really only intolerable when you let them get to you.
If I legitimately fuck up, and I cause a major issue in the firm, ya I get why someone's fuse may blow. But I've told a partner who yelled at me over the little-est thing to please take it down a notch unless warranted while I was a first year (obviously did it in a respectful tone and not immediately after the incident). Haven't gotten yelled at since.
After today I'd like to amend my vote to "terrible"...lol.Genius wrote:Wow only 28% terrible bosses. There is still hope in this field.
Now you gotta tell us the story.Anonymous User wrote:After today I'd like to amend my vote to "terrible"...lol.Genius wrote:Wow only 28% terrible bosses. There is still hope in this field.
oh shit jay bilas is in the house!!Anonymous User wrote:Before law school encountered a lot of "screamers" in athletics. Haven't had one in law so far, but I think being screamed at in athletics DOES actually help you prepare for irrational people in your career FWIW. Basically you just don't pay attention to what they're screaming about, just say you messed up, and try not to make the mistake again. Easier said then done and IMO screaming should have no place in a workplace.