Hiring Freezes?? Forum

[Anonymous User]

It wasn't an honors position. Idk what to say it was just a normal fed job with a standard background check, fingerprints clearance and the basic pre employment stuff. I wanna wish everyone else luck. Just remember that even if you were selected for a job and get told that the freeze is going to effect you, you must have been a good candidate and have good credentials so another job will come up that your qualified for. That's how I am looking at it.

So sorry to hear that. I hope I'm not ultimately in the same boat : ( Still up in the air for my agency.

[globetrotter659]

Honors Programs should be ok. The guidance that was released exempted PMF and Pathways. Honors programs are essentially the same thing. I do know that a few agencies have delayed making offers but I haven't heard about rescinding HP offers.

[A. Nony Mouse]

Since no one from honors will start before the fall, there may be less urgency to resolve it right away (I realize that's no fun for those of you in the programs but there are probably still a lot of people who were going to start well before you that need to get worked out). I'd be surprised if it got axed, though.

[Anonymous User]

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[globetrotter659]

Since no one from honors will start before the fall, there may be less urgency to resolve it right away (I realize that's no fun for those of you in the programs but there are probably still a lot of people who were going to start well before you that need to get worked out). I'd be surprised if it got axed, though.

My agency delayed sending out HP offers (still not sure if they are out yet). I've heard rumors of reducing the class size going forward but that is based on budget. For those that have HP offers, they should be good.

[FSK]

Since no one from honors will start before the fall, there may be less urgency to resolve it right away (I realize that's no fun for those of you in the programs but there are probably still a lot of people who were going to start well before you that need to get worked out). I'd be surprised if it got axed, though.

Yeah I get the logic, but spots at law firms are going-going-going at this point (for clerks, sorry 3Ls). I'd rather impale my foot on a spoon than go that route, but I ultimately need to pay my bills.

[A. Nony Mouse]

Since no one from honors will start before the fall, there may be less urgency to resolve it right away (I realize that's no fun for those of you in the programs but there are probably still a lot of people who were going to start well before you that need to get worked out). I'd be surprised if it got axed, though.

Yeah I get the logic, but spots at law firms are going-going-going at this point (for clerks, sorry 3Ls). I'd rather impale my foot on a spoon than go that route, but I ultimately need to pay my bills.

Sure, but reading the post-clerkship hiring thread, it doesn't look like there's been a ton of movement yet. In any case, I hope you guys get news soon!

[Npret]

Honors Programs should be ok. The guidance that was released exempted PMF and Pathways. Honors programs are essentially the same thing. I do know that a few agencies have delayed making offers but I haven't heard about rescinding HP offers.

This isn't completely accurate.The recent graduate program of PMF is not exempt.

The reason Pathways and the other PMF programs are exempt is because employment is provisional with no guarantee of conversion into a permanent job.

https://www.pmf.gov/media/100879/pmfpo- ... -final.pdf

[Anonymous User]

To share a horror story: a friend of my husband had got a park service job in Maine. Her husband, a Marine, was exiting service into another park service job in Maine. They'd bought a house. But now the jobs are gone, their mortgage in Maine is gone, and the house in Maine is gone, and he's in Afghanistan preparing to come home no jobs and no house. Fuck this whole thing.

[Npret]

To share a horror story: a friend of my husband had got a park service job in Maine. Her husband, a Marine, was exiting service into another park service job in Maine. They'd bought a house. But now the jobs are gone, their mortgage in Maine is gone, and the house in Maine is gone, and he's in Afghanistan preparing to come home no jobs and no house. Fuck this whole thing.

Sorry to hear this. I'm sure they aren't alone.

[Anonymous User]

I just received word that I am at the end of my clearance process. They are trying to get as many attorneys (DOJ) done this week as possible to avoid seeking exemptions.

[Anonymous User]

I just received word that I am at the end of my clearance process. They are trying to get as many attorneys (DOJ) done this week as possible to avoid seeking exemptions.

Any details you can give about when you accepted the offer, when you submitted your SF-86, etc.? Trying to gauge my own situation and where I might fall in the queue.

[Dnova002]

I just received word that I am at the end of my clearance process. They are trying to get as many attorneys (DOJ) done this week as possible to avoid seeking exemptions.

Any details you can give about when you accepted the offer, when you submitted your SF-86, etc.? Trying to gauge my own situation and where I might fall in the queue.

Got my clearance this morning. Start Thursday. Apparently, they were emailing me for additional info since 01/23 to a wrong email. Wow. Hopefully the rest of you get it soon!

[Anonymous User]

I take it you're not HP then?

[Anonymous User]

I just received word that I am at the end of my clearance process. They are trying to get as many attorneys (DOJ) done this week as possible to avoid seeking exemptions.

Any details you can give about when you accepted the offer, when you submitted your SF-86, etc.? Trying to gauge my own situation and where I might fall in the queue.

Job offer late November, I submitted SF-86 forms December 15, documents sent to the security section early January (took my office a bit to send).

[Anonymous User]

Take this for what you will, but there was an email sent 1 week ago from the school I attended (conservative) seeking applicants for attorney positions in the "Trump Administration." The email listed DOJ attorney positions as well as AUSAs.

[FSK]

Take this for what you will, but there was an email sent 1 week ago from the school I attended (conservative) seeking applicants for attorney positions in the "Trump Administration." The email listed DOJ attorney positions as well as AUSAs.

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http://www.politico.com/blogs/politico- ... tes-009900

[globetrotter659]

Honors Programs should be ok. The guidance that was released exempted PMF and Pathways. Honors programs are essentially the same thing. I do know that a few agencies have delayed making offers but I haven't heard about rescinding HP offers.

This isn't completely accurate.The recent graduate program of PMF is not exempt.

The reason Pathways and the other PMF programs are exempt is because employment is provisional with no guarantee of conversion into a permanent job.

https://www.pmf.gov/media/100879/pmfpo- ... -final.pdf

Right and the PMF program (not the Recent Graduates Program) is most comparable to Attorney HPs. My point still stands, if you have an HP offer then you should be ok. I have heard of agencies reducing the size of their Hp classes or delaying offers but no rescinding of offers. I'm a current Honors Attorney. The caveat being that nothing is for certain anymore.

[A. Nony Mouse]

Take this for what you will, but there was an email sent 1 week ago from the school I attended (conservative) seeking applicants for attorney positions in the "Trump Administration." The email listed DOJ attorney positions as well as AUSAs.

Who sent the email, and how were people supposed to apply?

[Npret]

Honors Programs should be ok. The guidance that was released exempted PMF and Pathways. Honors programs are essentially the same thing. I do know that a few agencies have delayed making offers but I haven't heard about rescinding HP offers.

This isn't completely accurate.The recent graduate program of PMF is not exempt.

The reason Pathways and the other PMF programs are exempt is because employment is provisional with no guarantee of conversion into a permanent job.

https://www.pmf.gov/media/100879/pmfpo- ... -final.pdf

Right and the PMF program (not the Recent Graduates Program) is most comparable to Attorney HPs. My point still stands, if you have an HP offer then you should be ok. I have heard of agencies reducing the size of their Hp classes or delaying offers but no rescinding of offers. I'm a current Honors Attorney. The caveat being that nothing is for certain anymore.

Thanks for this.
So why do you think Honors wasn't included along with the PMF and Pathways exemptions in the guidance?

[Anonymous User]

Take this for what you will, but there was an email sent 1 week ago from the school I attended (conservative) seeking applicants for attorney positions in the "Trump Administration." The email listed DOJ attorney positions as well as AUSAs.

Who sent the email, and how were people supposed to apply?

Was sent through the school's career services office and you could apply by sending resume to the school's career services office. Those selected to move on would then be contacted.

[MrT]

Take this for what you will, but there was an email sent 1 week ago from the school I attended (conservative) seeking applicants for attorney positions in the "Trump Administration." The email listed DOJ attorney positions as well as AUSAs.

Who sent the email, and how were people supposed to apply?

Was sent through the school's career services office and you could apply by sending resume to the school's career services office. Those selected to move on would then be contacted.

Assuming this is ASSOL based on proximity/political leanings.

[Anonymous User]

(j) “Appointments made under 5 C.F.R. § 213.3102(r) (time limited positions in support of fellowship or professional/industry exchange programs) provided that the total number of individuals employed under this authority does not exceed the number of employees onboard (hired under this authority) on January 22, 2017.”

I know some Honor Programs (the summer portions) are created under this statute/ in accordance with it, and HHS's memo made it as long as the number of those appointed didn't exceed FY 2016. (Page 3, #2) So I think at least those participating in the summer programs will be fine. http://www.raps.org/uploadedFiles/Site_ ... 0(002).pdf

[A. Nony Mouse]

I think most people here are concerned with the permanent postgrad honors positions, though.

[MrT]

I think most people here are concerned with the permanent postgrad honors positions, though.

Aren't all HP positions technically probationary and thus term roles?