Hiring Freezes?? Forum

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:58 am

I did practice - white collar and litigation. I can basically guarantee myself an interview for an opening in my number one choice where I used to practice (through connections) but it's a very competitive district.

As for the freeze and new USAs being separate - I completely agree. What my judge said, though, is that it varies from office to office and usually the interim or acting (I know there is a difference) USA has limited ability to hire, at least depending on the proposed USA, methodology, etc. So, independent of any freeze, I presumed there would be a period of relative stagnation.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:15 am

I would imagine your judge has better insights than I do; it will be interesting to see what happens. I know my office just posted an opening, so they appear to intend to try to hire before the next USA comes in (presuming anyone is able to hire anyone, of course). But who knows whether they'll be successful (and it may be that the hope is just that getting the job posted would exempt the position from the freeze or put them in a better position post-freeze? It is a replacement).

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:34 am

He might, but it seems very office-specific. He was acting USA years ago so I'm sure that's what occurred for him but whatever information is available on the ground and in the offices now is likely more relevant today. He also said that his office is "always hiring" regardless of postings which seems to also be an outlier.

Either way, i suppose trying to go back to biglaw for the clerkships bonuses wouldn't be the end of the world. Not ideal though.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:35 pm

I was just wondering if anyone had any insight into transfers within an agency during a hiring freeze. For example, if I am with HUD working in one division, after a hiring freeze, could I transfer into an entirely new position in an entirely new division? Thank you for any insight you can provide.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I was just wondering if anyone had any insight into transfers within an agency during a hiring freeze. For example, if I am with HUD working in one division, after a hiring freeze, could I transfer into an entirely new position in an entirely new division? Thank you for any insight you can provide.

Yes, as long as your FTE transfers with you and it's not a new FTE. In fact, this is how many jobs typically get filled in a hiring freeze.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:09 pm

trump hiring freeze... hopefully more details will emerge later.

eta: another WaPo link

A. Nony Mouse · Post by **A. Nony Mouse** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:15 pm

I love WaPo - all the commenters think the freeze is bogus, except one who's getting shouted down by everyone else.

albanach · Post by **albanach** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:17 pm

Anonymous User wrote:trump hiring freeze... hopefully more details will emerge later.

I wonder how broadly agencies can construe "military, public safety, and public health" who are apparently exempt from the freeze?

zot1 · Post by **zot1** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:23 pm

albanach wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:trump hiring freeze... hopefully more details will emerge later.
I wonder how broadly agencies can construe "military, public safety, and public health" who are apparently exempt from the freeze?

Based on my experience with furloughs, not broadly.

jbagelboy · Post by **jbagelboy** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:24 pm

FSK · Post by **FSK** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:28 pm

I just spoke with someone at DOJ OARM, and they're operating under assumption that accepted HP offers aren't effected. If text indicates this is retroactive, then I'm fucked.

zot1 · Post by **zot1** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:28 pm

FSK wrote:I just spoke with someone at DOJ OARM, and they're operating under assumption that accepted HP offers aren't effective. If text indicates this is retroactive, then I'm fucked.

Holy...

FSK · Post by **FSK** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:29 pm

zot1 wrote:
FSK wrote:I just spoke with someone at DOJ OARM, and they're operating under assumption that accepted HP offers aren't effected. If text indicates this is retroactive, then I'm fucked.
Holy...

Fixed

zot1 · Post by **zot1** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:34 pm

FSK wrote:
zot1 wrote:
FSK wrote:I just spoke with someone at DOJ OARM, and they're operating under assumption that accepted HP offers aren't effected. If text indicates this is retroactive, then I'm fucked.
Holy...
Fixed

That makes more sense.

A. Nony Mouse · Post by **A. Nony Mouse** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:40 pm

jbagelboy wrote:Does the hiring freeze affect existing federal clerkship offers that are scheduled to start this or next year?
I would assume no since its a different branch but with trump who knows

I don't see how it could - 1) different branch, and 2) all those judges with term clerks aren't going to be able to keep their current clerks/go without new ones. But obviously I don't know any more than anyone else here does.

Just crossing my fingers that it really doesn't affect transfers.

Edit: lol, my next door neighbor who is also switching jobs w/in the federal government is reading the WaPo article to someone on the phone right now and worrying about what it means, too.

FSK · Post by **FSK** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:46 pm

TRUMP YOU SELF PROFESSED FEDERALIST LEANER GIMME DAT TEXT

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:50 pm

Just heard from someone close to me who accepted a DOJ position that they just got off the phone with his/her section and they have been signaled by higher powers that it may be retroactive

jess · Post by **jess** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:02 pm

jess · Post by **jess** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:03 pm

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:06 pm

jessuf wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Just heard from someone close to me who accepted a DOJ position that they just got off the phone with his/her section and they have been signaled by higher powers that it may be retroactive
This would not surprise me. Trump seems pretty vindictive.

Yeah he clearly is. First press briefing is a straight attack for reporting facts? Off to a great start. If it is retroactive though, its bad news. I know this person I spoke with will be devastated. DOJ was always the goal in law school and to potentially get it taken away by an orange cheeto would suck a lot.

jess · Post by **jess** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:08 pm

crumb cake · Post by **crumb cake** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:15 pm

Best of luck to all government applicants.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:22 pm

Also heard from my close friend (anon poster above) that the hiring freeze includes a freeze on pay raises

FSK · Post by **FSK** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:24 pm

Is there like a memo going around? Someone leak it please

andythefir · Post by **andythefir** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:25 pm

For everyone checking in with information, can you add whether your info is for civil/civil rights/criminal? I don't see how even trump could say that criminal AUSAs don't fall under "public safety."

Also, "The memorandum signed by Trump’s is similar to one that President George W. Bush signed at the start of his administration in 2001." http://wtop.com/government/2017/01/trum ... l-workers/

That freeze was not retroactive, and was not really a freeze at all. http://www.govexec.com/contracting/2001 ... eeze/8339/

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