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I am a 2L, with a concentration in taxation. Would getting an LL.M in taxation really make a big difference to my career outlook?

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haus wrote: For humor purposes only...

20130312 wrote:

ETA: source: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=104400

Stealing my own comment from...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... M#p8271289

Both threads may be of interest to you.

But perhaps you might want to look for profiles and or LinkedIn pages for attorneys at firms/companies you might be interested in, and see how many of them have earned LLMs.

not necessary to practice tax if you land biglaw in OCI. necessary to practice tax law for most people that dont land biglaw/big 4 in oci hiring.

haus wrote:

haus wrote: For humor purposes only...

20130312 wrote:

ETA: source: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=104400

Stealing my own comment from...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... M#p8271289

Both threads may be of interest to you.

But perhaps you might want to look for profiles and or LinkedIn pages for attorneys at firms/companies you might be interested in, and see how many of them have earned LLMs.

I'm in at Northwestern for the LLM in Taxation. Would that suffice you think?

JohannDeMann wrote:not necessary to practice tax if you land biglaw in OCI. necessary to practice tax law for most people that dont land biglaw/big 4 in oci hiring.

I agree with this.

Also, first, it totally depends on your current grades. Are you currently at the top of your class with good job prospects post-graduation? If so, a tax LLM is unnecessary for biglaw (with the exception of a couple of firms that still insist on it for some reason). If not, consider a tax LLM to boost your resume and job prospects. Be aware that if you have bad grades from law school, a tax LLM does not fix it and will not necessary land you a biglaw tax gig.

I would not take time off from practicing to go to any school other than NYU. If you want to take night classes to help you practice tax better on a day to day basis, I think it's a different conversation. IMO, in that case, you can take night classes part time at any reasonable local school that offers a tax LLM program. I know tons of tax attorneys who have an LLM from a no-name school that they acquired at night while working full time. I think you can acquire the same information with less time & money by just attending webinars / seminars / conferences here and there, focusing on the subjects that will help you most in your day to day practice.

FWIW, I am a current tax associate at a large law firm, and lateralled from a different market where I was a tax associate at another large law firm. I do not have an LLM.

sawyercb wrote:

JohannDeMann wrote:not necessary to practice tax if you land biglaw in OCI. necessary to practice tax law for most people that dont land biglaw/big 4 in oci hiring.

I agree with this.

Also, first, it totally depends on your current grades. Are you currently at the top of your class with good job prospects post-graduation? If so, a tax LLM is unnecessary for biglaw (with the exception of a couple of firms that still insist on it for some reason). If not, consider a tax LLM to boost your resume and job prospects. Be aware that if you have bad grades from law school, a tax LLM does not fix it and will not necessary land you a biglaw tax gig.

I would not take time off from practicing to go to any school other than NYU. If you want to take night classes to help you practice tax better on a day to day basis, I think it's a different conversation. IMO, in that case, you can take night classes part time at any reasonable local school that offers a tax LLM program. I know tons of tax attorneys who have an LLM from a no-name school that they acquired at night while working full time. I think you can acquire the same information with less time & money by just attending webinars / seminars / conferences here and there, focusing on the subjects that will help you most in your day to day practice.

FWIW, I am a current tax associate at a large law firm, and lateralled from a different market where I was a tax associate at another large law firm. I do not have an LLM.

I am at U of C, average grades 3.3 GPA, wrote on for Law Journal (nothing major.) I did get the JP award in my Secured Trans class and was a research assistant for one of my Profs. I also TA'ed for a semester (Contracts). I like tax a lot and applied and found out not, too long ago that I got in at Northwestern for my LLM in tax. But like your advice, too. Thanks for it.

Isaac_Adelman wrote:quote]

I am at U of C, average grades 3.3 GPA, wrote on for Law Journal (nothing major.) I did get the JP award in my Secured Trans class and was a research assistant for one of my Profs. I also TA'ed for a semester (Contracts). I like tax a lot and applied and found out not, too long ago that I got in at Northwestern for my LLM in tax. But like your advice, too. Thanks for it.

Sure! Good luck, if you decide to go. Tax is awesome.

Sort of off topic, but would a tax LLM be a complete waste of time if I will have taken Fed Income, Corporate, Partnership, International, and Exempt Orgs by the time I get my JD? Is there anything I'd actually be missing?

Anonymous User wrote:Sort of off topic, but would a tax LLM be a complete waste of time if I will have taken Fed Income, Corporate, Partnership, International, and Exempt Orgs by the time I get my JD? Is there anything I'd actually be missing?

I feel it might get your foot in the door, especially if the LLM Tax program is at a highly regarded program i.e. NYU, Northwestern etc.

Isaac_Adelman wrote:

sawyercb wrote:

JohannDeMann wrote:not necessary to practice tax if you land biglaw in OCI. necessary to practice tax law for most people that dont land biglaw/big 4 in oci hiring.

I agree with this.

Also, first, it totally depends on your current grades. Are you currently at the top of your class with good job prospects post-graduation? If so, a tax LLM is unnecessary for biglaw (with the exception of a couple of firms that still insist on it for some reason). If not, consider a tax LLM to boost your resume and job prospects. Be aware that if you have bad grades from law school, a tax LLM does not fix it and will not necessary land you a biglaw tax gig.

I would not take time off from practicing to go to any school other than NYU. If you want to take night classes to help you practice tax better on a day to day basis, I think it's a different conversation. IMO, in that case, you can take night classes part time at any reasonable local school that offers a tax LLM program. I know tons of tax attorneys who have an LLM from a no-name school that they acquired at night while working full time. I think you can acquire the same information with less time & money by just attending webinars / seminars / conferences here and there, focusing on the subjects that will help you most in your day to day practice.

FWIW, I am a current tax associate at a large law firm, and lateralled from a different market where I was a tax associate at another large law firm. I do not have an LLM.

I am at U of C, average grades 3.3 GPA, wrote on for Law Journal (nothing major.) I did get the JP award in my Secured Trans class and was a research assistant for one of my Profs. I also TA'ed for a semester (Contracts). I like tax a lot and applied and found out not, too long ago that I got in at Northwestern for my LLM in tax. But like your advice, too. Thanks for it.

If you're median at U of C you probably really don't need it. I'm a tax associate at a band 1 chicago tax firm and almost no one has LLMs. With that being said I took every substantive tax elective I could and I feel like its helped with the learning curve, but I don't think getting an entire LLM is necessary as no one really expects you to be substantively knowledgeable coming in.

Anonymous User wrote:

Isaac_Adelman wrote:

sawyercb wrote:

JohannDeMann wrote:not necessary to practice tax if you land biglaw in OCI. necessary to practice tax law for most people that dont land biglaw/big 4 in oci hiring.

I agree with this.

Also, first, it totally depends on your current grades. Are you currently at the top of your class with good job prospects post-graduation? If so, a tax LLM is unnecessary for biglaw (with the exception of a couple of firms that still insist on it for some reason). If not, consider a tax LLM to boost your resume and job prospects. Be aware that if you have bad grades from law school, a tax LLM does not fix it and will not necessary land you a biglaw tax gig.

I would not take time off from practicing to go to any school other than NYU. If you want to take night classes to help you practice tax better on a day to day basis, I think it's a different conversation. IMO, in that case, you can take night classes part time at any reasonable local school that offers a tax LLM program. I know tons of tax attorneys who have an LLM from a no-name school that they acquired at night while working full time. I think you can acquire the same information with less time & money by just attending webinars / seminars / conferences here and there, focusing on the subjects that will help you most in your day to day practice.

FWIW, I am a current tax associate at a large law firm, and lateralled from a different market where I was a tax associate at another large law firm. I do not have an LLM.

I am at U of C, average grades 3.3 GPA, wrote on for Law Journal (nothing major.) I did get the JP award in my Secured Trans class and was a research assistant for one of my Profs. I also TA'ed for a semester (Contracts). I like tax a lot and applied and found out not, too long ago that I got in at Northwestern for my LLM in tax. But like your advice, too. Thanks for it.

If you're median at U of C you probably really don't need it. I'm a tax associate at a band 1 chicago tax firm and almost no one has LLMs. With that being said I took every substantive tax elective I could and I feel like its helped with the learning curve, but I don't think getting an entire LLM is necessary as no one really expects you to be substantively knowledgeable coming in.

I'm guessing U of C here doesn't mean University of Chicago since they have a different grading system.