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Going from lower ranked, but Band 1 to V5?
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:44 pm
by Anonymous User
I'll be heading to a market leading practice that is not highly ranked on vault.
Is it ever possible to lateral up? And if so, what does it usually require?
Re: Going from lower ranked, but Band 1 to V5?
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:51 pm
by LaLiLuLeLo
God forbid you aren't at a V5! Why would you ever work at a firm that's guaranteed career suicide???
Re: Going from lower ranked, but Band 1 to V5?
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:15 am
by rpupkin
The general formula for lateraling is:
(V/Y) * B
V = Vault Rank of Current Firm
Y = Class Year
B = Chambers Band
To take an example, let's say you're currently a third-year associate at a V30 in a Band 1 practice group:
(30/3) * 1 = 10.
That means you can lateral to a V10!
Now, let's take a more junior associate at a less prestigious firm—say, a second-year associate at a V40 in a Band 3 practice group.:
(40/2) * 3 = 60
The most this associate can hope for is to lateral to a V60.

Re: Going from lower ranked, but Band 1 to V5?
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:35 am
by Winter is Coming
rpupkin wrote:The general formula for lateraling is:
(V/Y) * B
V = Vault Rank of Current Firm
Y = Class Year
B = Chambers Band
To take an example, let's say you're currently a third-year associate at a V30 in a Band 1 practice group:
(30/3) * 1 = 10.
That means you can lateral to a V10!
Now, let's take a more junior associate at a less prestigious firm—say, a second-year associate at a V40 in a Band 3 practice group.:
(40/2) * 3 = 60
The most this associate can hope for is to lateral to a V60.

Poster above's forumula is largely correct, but there are other variables involved such as pro bono opportunities, culture and partner's dick size to take into account.
Re: Going from lower ranked, but Band 1 to V5?
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:12 am
by Anonymous User
This formula is interesting. Regarding vault ranking, is it the general or city specific?
For example, if I'm at Arnold & Porter in DC, but doing corporate rather than antitrust for two years, would my score be:
(5/2) * 2 = 5. Because they're ranked 5th in DC but band 2 for Corp. in chambers.
Or
(25/2) * 2 = 25
I like the first one better.
Re: Going from lower ranked, but Band 1 to V5?
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:44 am
by nealric
rpupkin wrote:The general formula for lateraling is:
(V/Y) * B
V = Vault Rank of Current Firm
Y = Class Year
B = Chambers Band
To take an example, let's say you're currently a third-year associate at a V30 in a Band 1 practice group:
(30/3) * 1 = 10.
That means you can lateral to a V10!
Now, let's take a more junior associate at a less prestigious firm—say, a second-year associate at a V40 in a Band 3 practice group.:
(40/2) * 3 = 60
The most this associate can hope for is to lateral to a V60.

I appreciate the laugh
Bravo sir/madam!

Re: Going from lower ranked, but Band 1 to V5?
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:22 pm
by Internetdan
It's all true. I tried to round down from my 25.57 to 25. No one really notices that stuff right? who would ever know or care. I mean it's basically an even 25 anyways. If it wasn't for that one stupid adjunct professor in HR deferring me for 3 months I would have been in year 3.
Well now a few weeks after swinging my DREAM FIRM of jones day Cleveland they checked my transcript and I'm facing a C&F inquiry and disbarment.
Do. Not. Round.
Re: Going from lower ranked, but Band 1 to V5?
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:29 pm
by KMart
Rp has been on a roll recently.