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STB v. Cleary v. Debevoise
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:07 am
by huskypearq
I'm trying (and having a hard time) deciding between these three...I want to do corporate work although I'm undecided within that group. I liked all three firms a lot during my CB's and wanted to get others opinions as to quality of work, culture, and prestige. Anyone have opinions or incites? Also if anyone has been a SA at any of these firms feel free to PM!
Re: STB v. Cleary v. Debevoise
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:23 pm
by SLS_AMG
All three are great firms. I think Debevoise is great if you're interested in one of their specialty areas (private M&A--particularly fund formation--for example), but if you're unsure I'd say STB and Cleary offer a broader range of top-notch practices. Between the two, STB is perhaps a shade more "prestigious" in that it's a traditional white-shoe firm along with CSM, S&C and DPW. But really that's just splitting hairs. I think STB people have a reputation for being a bit reserved and Cleary has a reputation of being quirky, whatever that means. Can't really go wrong with any of the three, though. Good luck!
Re: STB v. Cleary v. Debevoise
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:34 pm
by Anonymous User
Cleary for sure.
Re: STB v. Cleary v. Debevoise
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:35 pm
by ernestng
^ Sorry accidentally anon'd. But Cleary.
Re: STB v. Cleary v. Debevoise
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:43 pm
by Anonymous User
sorry to hijack the thread but how does the calculation change if DPW is added to the mix? I realize these firms are all very similar substantively so culture plays a big role. Which firm is the most social? If you're looking for somewhere where people go out to grab drinks frequently but without the "fratty" atmosphere of a Skadden, which of these four is the best choice?
Re: STB v. Cleary v. Debevoise
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:49 pm
by Anonymous User
I'd say Cleary, Debevoise, followed by STB. DPW is a lot less drinky.
Re: STB v. Cleary v. Debevoise
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:39 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:I'd say Cleary, Debevoise, followed by STB. DPW is a lot less drinky.
Than Debevoise and STB?! Lol no. I summered at one of these firms and have friends at all of them. DPW and Cleary are far and away more social than the other two.
Re: STB v. Cleary v. Debevoise
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:46 pm
by Anonymous User
I must've had a different experience from you then because DPW has been pretty quiet generally to me.
Re: STB v. Cleary v. Debevoise
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:40 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:I'd say Cleary, Debevoise, followed by STB. DPW is a lot less drinky.
Than Debevoise and STB?! Lol no. I summered at one of these firms and have friends at all of them. DPW and Cleary are far and away more social than the other two.
I am an associate at one of these firms and have friends at all of them and can confirm that anecdata is anecdata. This is going to depend on what group you end up in and the people you work for way more than the firm you choose. These firms all have very similar cultures.
Re: STB v. Cleary v. Debevoise
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:54 pm
by Anonymous User
For the widest variety or top notch transactional work, Simpson. For the firm I like most culture wise, Cleary Gottlieb, which is a very very close second to Simpson in terms of work quality. Debevoise would be last of the three.
Re: STB v. Cleary v. Debevoise
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:06 pm
by Anonymous User
Can I piggyback on this same comparison trio, but w/r/t white collar and/or IP litigation?