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OCS Advisor: "Don't Mass Mail Yet"

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:25 pm
by Anonymous User
Median grades @ T20. Career advisor told me not to mass mail yet and to focus on OCI because other firms won't even begin hiring until later. Is this an instance where I just ignore my advisor? TCR on TLS is to MM, so my advisor confused me a bit. Thanks for the input.

Re: OCS Advisor: "Don't Mass Mail Yet"

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:28 pm
by LaLiLuLeLo
Good to know OCS gives shitty advice across the board. Ignore them. Some firms have already started interviewing.

Re: OCS Advisor: "Don't Mass Mail Yet"

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:38 pm
by Anonymous User
my school's CSO told me not to do OCI with bigfirms bcuz my grades were at median. All my friends with median got jobs. I want to kill her but first kill her dog and husband infront of her.

Re: OCS Advisor: "Don't Mass Mail Yet"

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:41 pm
by Kinky John
Anonymous User wrote:my school's CSO told me not to do OCI with bigfirms bcuz my grades were at median. All my friends with median got jobs. I want to kill her but first kill her dog and husband infront of her.
Ooc do you go to wustl

Re: OCS Advisor: "Don't Mass Mail Yet"

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:48 pm
by Anonymous User
LaLiLuLeLo wrote:Good to know OCS gives shitty advice across the board. Ignore them. Some firms have already started interviewing.
OP here, thanks! That's what I suspected.

Re: OCS Advisor: "Don't Mass Mail Yet"

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:49 pm
by SFSpartan
Your CSO gave you extremely dumb/bad advice. You can and should ignore it.

Re: OCS Advisor: "Don't Mass Mail Yet"

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:49 pm
by Anonymous User
Not funny

Re: OCS Advisor: "Don't Mass Mail Yet"

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:13 pm
by throwaway2018
if anything you're a behind the curve on massmailing. I'd get on it ASAP.

Re: OCS Advisor: "Don't Mass Mail Yet"

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:00 pm
by Anonymous User
My understanding of career service office people is that they are lazy, and want to do as little work as possible.

Re: OCS Advisor: "Don't Mass Mail Yet"

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:10 pm
by Sprout
LaLiLuLeLo wrote:Good to know OCS gives shitty advice across the board. Ignore them. Some firms have already started interviewing given offers.
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This time last year I had interviews through mass mailing that led to callback interviews the first week of August. TLS >>> CSO.

Re: OCS Advisor: "Don't Mass Mail Yet"

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:53 pm
by Vexed
There's also this weird protective element OCPs tend to have over OCI where 1) they want to be able to report that students netted their jobs through the school's OCI, which they can't do if it's obtained through a MM process, and 2) they're afraid firms won't actually dole out offers or seriously consider as many candidates at OCI if they've already got offers pending to other students from the school coming into the process.

Are they wrong about these things? Not entirely. But, as is often repeated, their job is to get as many students as possible a job, not to get you the most options or "ideal" job you want. I'd always keep that in mind when taking advice from OCP.

Re: OCS Advisor: "Don't Mass Mail Yet"

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:03 pm
by misterjames
the only acceptable explanation here is that your advisor thought you were referencing mid or smaller firms, in which case her advice would be accurate. but for big firms? you should have started already

Re: OCS Advisor: "Don't Mass Mail Yet"

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:27 pm
by foregetaboutdre
Vexed wrote:There's also this weird protective element OCPs tend to have over OCI where 1) they want to be able to report that students netted their jobs through the school's OCI, which they can't do if it's obtained through a MM process, and 2) they're afraid firms won't actually dole out offers or seriously consider as many candidates at OCI if they've already got offers pending to other students from the school coming into the process.

Are they wrong about these things? Not entirely. But, as is often repeated, their job is to get as many students as possible a job, not to get you the most options or "ideal" job you want. I'd always keep that in mind when taking advice from OCP.
I'll second this point. To me it's bizarre, but it seems like career services guards their OCI process like a rabid dog (sometimes), and does not like you reaching out to firms beforehand.

Re: OCS Advisor: "Don't Mass Mail Yet"

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:32 pm
by Anonymous User
My CSO told me something similar. If I had listened I wouldn't have 3 CB next week in my target market. Hoping for a pre OCI offer so I can cancel 90%-100% of my interviews and maybe have an extra 2 weeks at home.

Re: OCS Advisor: "Don't Mass Mail Yet"

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:03 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Is this an instance where I just ignore my advisor?
If this is Vandy, then yes, you should ignore your advisor.

Re: OCS Advisor: "Don't Mass Mail Yet"

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:09 pm
by BmoreOrLess
This is probably from self-interest and part of the general CSO campaign against pre-OCI interviews.