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Da office with 100 attorneys vs statewide firm with 65 attorneys. Which is more prestigious if i wanna do litigation? Firm has decent size litigation department.

Is this for an internship or a job? If it's for an internship, doesn't matter, whichever has a better chance of leading to a job. If it's a job, what are your long term career goals?

Biggest troll on TLS. Even bigger than that James kid.

I hate you so much

Dude if you want to be a half-decent troll you're going to have to be more creative than coming up with an inane "vs" list.

This is a job not an internship. My long term goal is being a good litigator, probably a civil litigator working for a large firm. Any constructive advice is greatly appreciated.

poweradezero wrote:This is a job not an internship. My long term goal is being a good litigator, probably a civil litigator working for a large firm. Any constructive advice is greatly appreciated.

1) Quit being worried about prestige. 2) Get out criminal law if you want to do civil law. 3) Stop making stupid threads. 4) Work for the firm.

Could anyone share their thoughts? Thanks in advance!

Ask a lawyer at Williams and Connolly and another lawyer at Wilson Elser whether law firm prestige and lawyer count are are always directly related. Then do the same thing with a lawyer at the NY County DA's office (Manhattan) and one working at the Bronx DA's office. That should help to explain to you why your thread makes zero sense.

It doesn't matter. Nobody gives two shits about who you work for. Stop caring so much about prestige and realize that, wherever you end up, you're just another turd on the shitpile.

ronanOgara wrote:1) Quit being worried about prestige. 2) Get out criminal law if you want to do civil law. 3) Stop making stupid threads. 4) Work for the firm.

This seemed to sum it up pretty well. But especially, if you want civil lit in a firm, go do civil lit in a firm and don't go be an ADA.

reasonable_man wrote:Ask a lawyer at Williams and Connolly and another lawyer at Wilson Elser whether law firm prestige and lawyer count are are always directly related. Then do the same thing with a lawyer at the NY County DA's office (Manhattan) and one working at the Bronx DA's office. That should help to explain to you why your thread makes zero sense.

Bronx all day, bruh.

Wouldnt jury trial experience be appealing to firms? I see many firm associates list their trial experience as a former ada and asso position in their previous firms.

poweradezero wrote:Wouldnt jury trial experience be appealing to firms? I see many firm associates list their trial experience as a former ada and asso position in their previous firms.

It's absolutely going to depend on the firm. I don't think there are a lot of former ADAs working as associates at biglaw firms. At regional/local litigation firms, maybe.

But the way you're asking these questions is kind of confusing - what do you really want to know? If you want to work as a civil litigator, get a job as a civil litigator. If you want to do criminal work, get a job as an ADA. If you have an ADA offer but want to be a civil litigator, yes, you can work on selling your litigation skills as skills that transfer from the one to the other, but it's probably not the most straightforward path. But a job is better than no job so you may have to take the second- or third-best option and try to work your way from there to where you want to be.

I don't see how you're going to become the Americans with Disabilities Act. Fucking millennials taking "you can become anything you want" literally

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OP you might wanna narrow down what you mean by 'wanna do litigation'.
Litigation is not trial work. They're different skill sets and how you develop them depends will be constrained on the particulars of your two options (variety of crime/types of clients,disputes).
FWIW - Most ADA's invariably get some trial skills just by nature of how much trial experience that comes their way. But oral advocacy can be a minor if non-existent part of some types of civil litigation. My impression is that ADA's don't really have a chance (or incentive) to develop their written advocacy skills until they start handling felonies. Most motion practice that comes up with misdemeanors is pretty boilerplate.

Prestige.

So which one is more prestigious?

poweradezero wrote:So which one is more prestigious?

There it is.

poweradezero wrote:So which one is more prestigious?

The public defender position.

Actually, a lot of firms on the civil side look at it and say "great, he can try a case... only 3 percent of our cases get tried and we have plenty of people that can try cases already." They also say "he's an ADA -- which means he can't write for shit."

From what I know about your DA position via your other posts. Firm job by a lot. take it.

Any logical reason to take firm job over ada job?