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Wilson Keadjian Browndorf?

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:53 pm
by Anonymous User
Does anybody know anything about this firm? It's located in Irvine, CA.

Re: Wilson Keadjian Browndorf?

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:10 am
by Anonymous User
Yup, I interned there last summer after 1L. It's a small firm and frankly I do not have a good opinion of it. Any questions in particular?

Re: Wilson Keadjian Browndorf?

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:46 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Yup, I interned there last summer after 1L. It's a small firm and frankly I do not have a good opinion of it. Any questions in particular?
Thanks for the reply. What made it a bad experience? Did you see any rising 3L's receive permanent offers?

Re: Wilson Keadjian Browndorf?

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:06 pm
by Serett
Sounds made-up.

Re: Wilson Keadjian Browndorf?

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:25 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Yup, I interned there last summer after 1L. It's a small firm and frankly I do not have a good opinion of it. Any questions in particular?
Thanks for the reply. What made it a bad experience? Did you see any rising 3L's receive permanent offers?
Several things turned me off very quickly, but the main thing was that it was an unpaid internship, but they billed out our time to their clients. I must have brought in at least $10k for the summer, but I never saw a dime, which really sucked because I was dirt poor as a rising 2L. Also, it seemed like they had an usually high number of fee disputes with clients.

I did not see anyone get an offer, but I'm sure someone did. I believe the starting salary was $75k.

Re: Wilson Keadjian Browndorf?

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:40 pm
by favabeansoup
Anonymous User wrote:
Several things turned me off very quickly, but the main thing was that it was an unpaid internship, but they billed out our time to their clients. I must have brought in at least $10k for the summer, but I never saw a dime, which really sucked because I was dirt poor as a rising 2L. Also, it seemed like they had an usually high number of fee disputes with clients.

I did not see anyone get an offer, but I'm sure someone did. I believe the starting salary was $75k.
How is this even legal to not pay an intern when billing out their time? Legitimate question if anyone knows the answer.

Re: Wilson Keadjian Browndorf?

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:20 pm
by kalvano
favabeansoup wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Several things turned me off very quickly, but the main thing was that it was an unpaid internship, but they billed out our time to their clients. I must have brought in at least $10k for the summer, but I never saw a dime, which really sucked because I was dirt poor as a rising 2L. Also, it seemed like they had an usually high number of fee disputes with clients.

I did not see anyone get an offer, but I'm sure someone did. I believe the starting salary was $75k.
How is this even legal to not pay an intern when billing out their time? Legitimate question if anyone knows the answer.
It's not.

Re: Wilson Keadjian Browndorf?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:26 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Yup, I interned there last summer after 1L. It's a small firm and frankly I do not have a good opinion of it. Any questions in particular?
Thanks for the reply. What made it a bad experience? Did you see any rising 3L's receive permanent offers?
Several things turned me off very quickly, but the main thing was that it was an unpaid internship, but they billed out our time to their clients. I must have brought in at least $10k for the summer, but I never saw a dime, which really sucked because I was dirt poor as a rising 2L. Also, it seemed like they had an usually high number of fee disputes with clients.

I did not see anyone get an offer, but I'm sure someone did. I believe the starting salary was $75k.
Sounds absolutely sketchy. Did anyone speak up about the illegality of using unpaid interns to bill clients? Nevertheless, did you do substantive legal work? What were some of your biggest responsibilities?

Re: Wilson Keadjian Browndorf?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:05 am
by Anonymous User
lol how long was the hours for a 1L law clerk that made you say that you pulled in 10k?

Re: Wilson Keadjian Browndorf?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:05 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Yup, I interned there last summer after 1L. It's a small firm and frankly I do not have a good opinion of it. Any questions in particular?
Thanks for the reply. What made it a bad experience? Did you see any rising 3L's receive permanent offers?
Several things turned me off very quickly, but the main thing was that it was an unpaid internship, but they billed out our time to their clients. I must have brought in at least $10k for the summer, but I never saw a dime, which really sucked because I was dirt poor as a rising 2L. Also, it seemed like they had an usually high number of fee disputes with clients.

I did not see anyone get an offer, but I'm sure someone did. I believe the starting salary was $75k.
Sounds absolutely sketchy. Did anyone speak up about the illegality of using unpaid interns to bill clients? Nevertheless, did you do substantive legal work? What were some of your biggest responsibilities?
No, I did not, and honestly I'm not sure that it's illegal. The law on this topic is fairly grey.

Yes, I did some substantive work like drafting briefs and other filings, but I also got stuck with a lot of doc review.
Anonymous User wrote:lol how long was the hours for a 1L law clerk that made you say that you pulled in 10k?
You'd be surprised at how quickly doc review at $200(ish)/hour adds up.

Re: Wilson Keadjian Browndorf?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:19 pm
by kalvano
They billed a summer intern at $200 an hour?

Lulz.

Re: Wilson Keadjian Browndorf?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:02 pm
by RaceJudicata
Anonymous User wrote:lol how long was the hours for a 1L law clerk that made you say that you pulled in 10k?
This can be done easily. If rate is $75hr --> only 133 hours over the course of a summer. not far fetched at all.