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CA BigLaw with weak ties
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:44 pm
by Anonymous User
Median t14 with loose ties. I can present a strong pitch for wanting to work with technology companies based on my undergrad degree. I want to work in SF/SV but I've heard LA is more open to east coasters. 2Ls/3Ls and current associates advice welcome.
Thanks ahead of time
Re: CA BigLaw with weak ties
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:54 am
by Anonymous User
I'm an east coast transplant that works in LA biglaw. Although I can't speak for SF/SV, LA definitely does care about ties. Long story short, I decided to go to law school in LA because my girlfriend (who I met in college on the east coast) is from LA, and our plan was for me to move out west. In every single OCI screener interview I was asked, "Your resume screams east coast...so why LA?" I gave the whole speech about how my long term significant other is from here, I intend to stay here, blah blah blah, but they definitely cared. Some pushed back a bit, others seemed satisfied.
This question came up even more during my callbacks, especially from partners. Obviously some firms care more than others and plenty of other factors play a role, but ties definitely matter as a whole.
Good luck!
Re: CA BigLaw with weak ties
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:35 am
by Anonymous User
LA cares about ties. Like the above poster I'm an East Coast transplant who got grilled extensively on "why LA" in every interview. That said, you can make it out here without extensive ties. For some it will be an auto ding, for others it will be one factor among many. I know people who got SF/SV without ties too. Your grades will determine as much or more then your history.
Re: CA BigLaw with weak ties
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:33 am
by run26.2
In SV/SF, my experience suggests there are a couple of factors that may help overcome weak ties. A degree from H or Y (and to a lesser extent Columbia) helps. Very strong grades at another t14.
Work experience in tech and/or startups is helpful. Simply having a U/G in a tech field is not enough, though.
Re: CA BigLaw with weak ties
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:19 pm
by globetrotter659
Do you have a science degree? I know plenty of people with no ties to CA who got jobs in SF/SV because they can do patents.
I lived in SF for 22 years but spent a few years on the east coast after undergrad (including law school). SF firms grilled me on my ties.
Re: CA BigLaw with weak ties
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:04 pm
by run26.2
I agree. If OP wants to do patent pros, their credentials are probably good enough, even without ties.
Re: CA BigLaw with weak ties
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:10 pm
by El Pollito
I can't speak to OCI, but ties were not a big deal during lateral interviews.
Re: CA BigLaw with weak ties
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:00 pm
by Tiago Splitter
I've been pretty surprised at the number of people in SV biglaw without ties to the area. Certainly wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket though. It would help if you are working 1L summer in CA somewhere.
Re: CA BigLaw with weak ties
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:10 pm
by Anonymous User
OP here, thanks everybody. Don't think I'll spend many bids on LA, because I honestly don't know anything about the market. It seems so different than the bay area. (there is spacex, but other than that is it mostly entertainment and generic f500 transactions?)
Re: CA BigLaw with weak ties
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:29 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:OP here, thanks everybody. Don't think I'll spend many bids on LA, because I honestly don't know anything about the market. It seems so different than the bay area. (there is spacex, but other than that is it mostly entertainment and generic f500 transactions?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Beach
Re: CA BigLaw with weak ties
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:15 pm
by oblig.lawl.ref
Tiago Splitter wrote:I've been pretty surprised at the number of people in SV biglaw without ties to the area. Certainly wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket though. It would help if you are working 1L summer in CA somewhere.
This.
Re: CA BigLaw with weak ties
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:22 pm
by oblig.lawl.ref
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:OP here, thanks everybody. Don't think I'll spend many bids on LA, because I honestly don't know anything about the market. It seems so different than the bay area. (there is spacex, but other than that is it mostly entertainment and generic f500 transactions?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Beach
Here's the thing about this, lots of the companies appearing in that Silicon Beach wiki page use SV offices of SV firms as their primary outside counsel. So (a) the fact that a major SV company opens an office in LA and (b) the fact that a unicorn grows in LA does not necessarily translate in LA legal work.