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Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:43 pm
by Desert Fox

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:49 pm
by cron1834
Dude, not the preferred nomenclature.

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:51 pm
by seespotrun
It's the only nomenclature through.

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:58 pm
by Desert Fox
I'm sorry Oriental Wall.

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:02 pm
by kellyfrost
cron1834 wrote:Dude, not the preferred nomenclature.
This is one of the things that is wrong with America. Everyone has to be too politically correct. The OP meant nothing racist or degrading about this. He simply used the nomenclature.

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:07 pm
by Desert Fox
kellyfrost wrote:
cron1834 wrote:Dude, not the preferred nomenclature.
This is one of the things that is wrong with America. Everyone has to be too politically correct. The OP meant nothing racist or degrading about this. He simply used the nomenclature.
TBF

1) I'm often being purposefully inciting so I can't complain

2) I think he's making a Big Lebowski reference. The dood abides.

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:08 pm
by rpupkin
kellyfrost wrote:
cron1834 wrote:Dude, not the preferred nomenclature.
This is one of the things that is wrong with America. Everyone has to be too politically correct. The OP meant nothing racist or degrading about this. He simply used the nomenclature.
Ironic. Posters attempt to throw in a few light-hearted Big Lebowski references, and then a sanctimonious poster goes on a "this is one of the things wrong with America" mini-rant. You're one of the things wrong with America, kellyfrost.

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:15 pm
by kellyfrost
rpupkin wrote:
kellyfrost wrote:
cron1834 wrote:Dude, not the preferred nomenclature.
This is one of the things that is wrong with America. Everyone has to be too politically correct. The OP meant nothing racist or degrading about this. He simply used the nomenclature.
Ironic. Posters attempt to throw in a few light-hearted Big Lebowski references, and then a sanctimonious poster goes on a "this is one of the things wrong with America" mini-rant. You're one of the things wrong with America, kellyfrost.
Be that as it may, it is a Chinese firewall. When you say Chinese firewall everyone knows exactly what you mean and it isn't degrading.

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:21 pm
by Abbie Doobie
kellyfrost wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
kellyfrost wrote:
cron1834 wrote:Dude, not the preferred nomenclature.
This is one of the things that is wrong with America. Everyone has to be too politically correct. The OP meant nothing racist or degrading about this. He simply used the nomenclature.
Ironic. Posters attempt to throw in a few light-hearted Big Lebowski references, and then a sanctimonious poster goes on a "this is one of the things wrong with America" mini-rant. You're one of the things wrong with America, kellyfrost.
Be that as it may, it is a Chinese firewall. When you say Chinese firewall everyone knows exactly what you mean and it isn't degrading.
ur right, he should have said "asian-american" firewall

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:21 pm
by rpupkin
kellyfrost wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
kellyfrost wrote:
cron1834 wrote:Dude, not the preferred nomenclature.
This is one of the things that is wrong with America. Everyone has to be too politically correct. The OP meant nothing racist or degrading about this. He simply used the nomenclature.
Ironic. Posters attempt to throw in a few light-hearted Big Lebowski references, and then a sanctimonious poster goes on a "this is one of the things wrong with America" mini-rant. You're one of the things wrong with America, kellyfrost.
Be that as it may, it is a Chinese firewall. When you say Chinese firewall everyone knows exactly what you mean and it isn't degrading.
Shut the fuck up, Kelly. You are out of your element.

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:36 pm
by Tls2016
i don't think it's quite that simple. the clients have to agree, as far as I know,and they don't always unless the partner strong arms them. But maybe each firm is different ?

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:46 pm
by kellyfrost
rpupkin wrote:
kellyfrost wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
kellyfrost wrote:
cron1834 wrote:Dude, not the preferred nomenclature.
This is one of the things that is wrong with America. Everyone has to be too politically correct. The OP meant nothing racist or degrading about this. He simply used the nomenclature.
Ironic. Posters attempt to throw in a few light-hearted Big Lebowski references, and then a sanctimonious poster goes on a "this is one of the things wrong with America" mini-rant. You're one of the things wrong with America, kellyfrost.
Be that as it may, it is a Chinese firewall. When you say Chinese firewall everyone knows exactly what you mean and it isn't degrading.
Shut the fuck up, Kelly. You are out of your element.
Tell me more, pupkin.

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:56 pm
by cron1834
rpupkin wrote:
kellyfrost wrote:
cron1834 wrote:Dude, not the preferred nomenclature.
This is one of the things that is wrong with America. Everyone has to be too politically correct. The OP meant nothing racist or degrading about this. He simply used the nomenclature.
Ironic. Posters attempt to throw in a few light-hearted Big Lebowski references, and then a sanctimonious poster goes on a "this is one of the things wrong with America" mini-rant. You're one of the things wrong with America, kellyfrost.
This is correct.

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:22 pm
by Desert Fox
Tls2016 wrote:i don't think it's quite that simple. the clients have to agree, as far as I know,and they don't always unless the partner strong arms them. But maybe each firm is different ?
Does model rule 1.9 require a waiver if it is t the same case?

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:24 pm
by Anonymous User
kellyfrost wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
kellyfrost wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
kellyfrost wrote:
cron1834 wrote:Dude, not the preferred nomenclature.
This is one of the things that is wrong with America. Everyone has to be too politically correct. The OP meant nothing racist or degrading about this. He simply used the nomenclature.
Ironic. Posters attempt to throw in a few light-hearted Big Lebowski references, and then a sanctimonious poster goes on a "this is one of the things wrong with America" mini-rant. You're one of the things wrong with America, kellyfrost.
Be that as it may, it is a Chinese firewall. When you say Chinese firewall everyone knows exactly what you mean and it isn't degrading.
Shut the fuck up, Kelly. You are out of your element.
Tell me more, pupkin.
Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes, well, he eats you

edit - accidental anon; this is cfc1524

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:55 pm
by roydurham
rpupkin wrote:
kellyfrost wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
kellyfrost wrote:
cron1834 wrote:Dude, not the preferred nomenclature.
This is one of the things that is wrong with America. Everyone has to be too politically correct. The OP meant nothing racist or degrading about this. He simply used the nomenclature.
Ironic. Posters attempt to throw in a few light-hearted Big Lebowski references, and then a sanctimonious poster goes on a "this is one of the things wrong with America" mini-rant. You're one of the things wrong with America, kellyfrost.
Be that as it may, it is a Chinese firewall. When you say Chinese firewall everyone knows exactly what you mean and it isn't degrading.
Shut the fuck up, Kelly. You are out of your element.
This looks like something you would have found on the message boards all4jds (http://www.all4jds.com) circa 2008. Good job guys!

alt of kellyfrost has been permad and kellyfrost has been banned for alting to sockpuppet

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:12 am
by Tls2016
Desert Fox wrote:
Tls2016 wrote:i don't think it's quite that simple. the clients have to agree, as far as I know,and they don't always unless the partner strong arms them. But maybe each firm is different ?
Does model rule 1.9 require a waiver if it is t the same case?
Different clients on same case?
My guess is it requires a waiver if only as a precaution to protect yourself and your firm. You don't need this as an issue later. I'm not an expert though.

Someone at the firm or the new firm should be expert on this. No one wants to get thrown out on a case because a lawyer didn't get the client to waive.

If you are junior enough they probably won't care or want to hinder your career.

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:14 am
by rpupkin
roydurham wrote: This looks like something you would have found on the message boards all4jds (http://www.all4jds.com) circa 2008. Good job guys!
And a lame sarcastic post by a sockpuppet looks like something you would find on TLS in 2016. We've come a long way, baby!

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:10 am
by Shelled
rpupkin wrote:
roydurham wrote: This looks like something you would have found on the message boards all4jds (http://www.all4jds.com) circa 2008. Good job guys!
And a lame sarcastic post by a sockpuppet looks like something you would find on TLS in 2016. We've come a long way, baby!
You jerk!

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:18 am
by A. Nony Mouse
Thanks for trotting out all your alts so I can ban them, dude.

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:29 am
by ymmv
seespotrun wrote:It's the only nomenclature through.
I've only heard ethics wall the past two summers, sorry about the PUSSIFICATION bra.

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Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:15 am
by seespotrun
Anonymous User wrote:
seespotrun wrote:It's the only nomenclature through.
I've only heard ethics wall the past two summers, sorry about the PUSSIFICATION bra.
Ethics wall--that's good. Didn't know about the alternative.

I said chinese wall on a call this summer and wondered out loud whether that was still appropriate and whether there was a better term to use. My co-counsel (a partner there) and I chuckled about it and concluded that of course it was appropriate. It's the greatest wall there is or ever has been. You can see it from space. Referencing it's geographic location shouldn't hit any sensitive nerves. I imagine that's what people mean when they say white privilege.

Re: Are all former client (from former firm) conflicts curable by using chinese firewall

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:20 pm
by Anonymous User
I've had this same issue before. I would read your state's particular PR rules on duties to former clients. You can start with the ABA Model Rules: http://www.americanbar.org/groups/profe ... ients.html

Also, you don't have someone from your firm you can ask this?

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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:01 pm
by Desert Fox
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