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Insight on mid-size NY Firms: Hodgson Russ, Phillips Lytle, Harter Secrest, etc.?

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:10 pm
by Anonymous User
What are the grades these firms look for? Specifically interested in their upstate NY offices.

t25, not New York school; undergrad in NY

Re: Insight on mid-size NY Firms: Hodgson Russ, Phillips Lytle, Harter Secrest, etc.?

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:35 pm
by Anonymous User
Firms are looking for top 25% of class with ties to the region and city where the specific office is.

Re: Insight on mid-size NY Firms: Hodgson Russ, Phillips Lytle, Harter Secrest, etc.?

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:59 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Firms are looking for top 25% of class with ties to the region and city where the specific office is.
Are upstate firms that grade selective for the t14, as well? Figured the strong ties requirement would mean the firms would have to dig a little deeper into the class.

Re: Insight on mid-size NY Firms: Hodgson Russ, Phillips Lytle, Harter Secrest, etc.?

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:08 pm
by Anonymous User
Your probably right, in that they will dig a little deeper. However the upstate firms I know of (Buffalo Market) have very small entering classes Phillips hired maybe 5 this year and laid off others from various practice groups. Alot is going to depend on your interest and partner ties.

Re: Insight on mid-size NY Firms: Hodgson Russ, Phillips Lytle, Harter Secrest, etc.?

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:17 pm
by Anonymous User
T25, roughly top 15% at the time of OCI, Law Review. I snagged an offer with Harter Secrest with absolutely no ties to New York, much less Rochester. I'm sure this is not par the course, but it happens.

Re: Insight on mid-size NY Firms: Hodgson Russ, Phillips Lytle, Harter Secrest, etc.?

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:06 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Your probably right, in that they will dig a little deeper. However the upstate firms I know of (Buffalo Market) have very small entering classes Phillips hired maybe 5 this year and laid off others from various practice groups. Alot is going to depend on your interest and partner ties.
Thanks - I appreciate the insight.

Never heard of the bolded before. Does this imply you need people (i.e. partners) to bat for you during the application process? Figured that would always be a good thing to have, but didn't imagine too many law students had that kind of network setup so early on

Re: Insight on mid-size NY Firms: Hodgson Russ, Phillips Lytle, Harter Secrest, etc.?

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:46 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Your probably right, in that they will dig a little deeper. However the upstate firms I know of (Buffalo Market) have very small entering classes Phillips hired maybe 5 this year and laid off others from various practice groups. Alot is going to depend on your interest and partner ties.
Thanks - I appreciate the insight.

Never heard of the bolded before. Does this imply you need people (i.e. partners) to bat for you during the application process? Figured that would always be a good thing to have, but didn't imagine too many law students had that kind of network setup so early on
My current employment will come around for that one reason. Best way to make moves as a 0L is to figure out who represents the companies you work for before school (obviously if your company is too large this might be impossible) and put together contacts that way.