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Give me one good reason to do biglaw

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:47 pm

...if I don't have any debt

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Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:52 pm

dat cash flow

exit options

having a job; looking for non-biglaw jobs is way harder

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Post by seespotrun » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:52 pm

Stack cash for a couple of years. Exit to something you'd like to do.

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Re: Give me one good reason to do biglaw

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Re: Give me one good reason to do biglaw

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I can give you 190,000 good reasons.

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Re: Give me one good reason to do biglaw

Post by jbagelboy » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:08 pm

honestly if I was super loaded, i.e., parents paid for law school and provided me a relatively nice lifestyle in a fun metro area, I'd probably summer at a big law firm - since that's mostly fun and good signaling to other employers - and then take my time to look for other opportunities as a 3L/grad.

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Re: Give me one good reason to do biglaw

Post by Cogburn87 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:16 pm

Money is really the only reason.

Don't ruin your fucking life for money, though.

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Re: Give me one good reason to do biglaw

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Money, exit options, importance of first job to career trajectory

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Re: Give me one good reason to do biglaw

Post by trebekismyhero » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:33 pm

Unless you already have a job lined up with a family business or the like I would start in big law and start looking at something you really want to do immediately. As others have said the exit opps are just better from big law. If you are a 100% PI gunner maybe not, but even a lot of prestigious gov't jobs prefer to hire ppl with some big law experience.

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Re: Give me one good reason to do biglaw

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Excluding NYC shrews, it can help improve your dating prospects

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Re: Give me one good reason to do biglaw

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:38 pm

I graduated from law school with very little debt, and i chose biglaw because the job brought me to the city where I wanted to live (and wasn't able to through other means), offers money and prestige, and is really the only type of legal job I could get. I can tell you that (for me) the money and the prestige are definitely not worth the pain/stress. I am glad I'm living in the city I had always wanted to, and am looking for other opportunities, but as others have pointed out, it's hard to get a decent non-biglaw legal job so junior.

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Re: Give me one good reason to do biglaw

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bearsfan23 wrote:Excluding NYC shrews, it can help improve your dating prospects
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Re: Give me one good reason to do biglaw

Post by dixiecupdrinking » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:14 pm

Well, it's by far the most lucrative, safe, prestigious (in the important, "keeps doors open" sense) and readily available job for new law school graduates.

It helps to think of it like a med school residency or something IMO. Temporary means to an end.

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Re: Give me one good reason to do biglaw

Post by Johann » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:06 pm

jbagelboy wrote:honestly if I was super loaded, i.e., parents paid for law school and provided me a relatively nice lifestyle in a fun metro area, I'd probably summer at a big law firm - since that's mostly fun and good signaling to other employers - and then take my time to look for other opportunities as a 3L/grad.
maybe go into the first few months of the job and keep it chill. turn down work etc while aggresively looking for early exit options, but why even start if you dont have to. summer would be tight htough.

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Re: Give me one good reason to do biglaw

Post by zot1 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:32 pm

Anonymous User wrote:...if I don't have any debt
You can try to get an honors attorney position (decent pay, also prestigious, better hours/lifestyle). But it's hard and stressful because you won't know until late in the game.

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Re: Give me one good reason to do biglaw

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:47 pm

^I assume that is extremely competitive?

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Post by zot1 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:06 pm

Anonymous User wrote:^I assume that is extremely competitive?
I mean, if you're competitive enough for biglaw, you should also be competitive for those programs. I mean, this is a big generalization--I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions.

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Re: Give me one good reason to do biglaw

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:12 pm

^Ah, okay. I assumed it was one of those "special snowflake" gov't positions people on this site talk about.

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Post by rpupkin » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:16 pm

zot1 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:^I assume that is extremely competitive?
I mean, if you're competitive enough for biglaw, you should also be competitive for those programs. I mean, this is a big generalization--I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions.
Government honors attorney positions are generally MUCH harder to get than a big law associate gig. There just aren't that many government honors attorney positions.

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Re: Give me one good reason to do biglaw

Post by zot1 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:20 pm

Anonymous User wrote:^Ah, okay. I assumed it was one of those "special snowflake" gov't positions people on this site talk about.
Here's a non-inclusive list of all the programs: https://www.wcl.american.edu/career/gov ... honors.pdf

Really the hard part is that people get hired for these jobs spring of 3L and sometimes even during bar prep. So unlike the biglaw people who've been laughing it off for a whole year with an offer, you're crying in a corner waiting for the phone to ring. There's also not guarantee whatsoever that you'll get it.

Also, not sure what year you're in, but many federal agencies have Pathways internships for 2L summer and it's my understanding that you can get a post-grad offer out of those. However, I don't know anyone who has done this. This is just stuff I've read/heard/etc.

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Re: Give me one good reason to do biglaw

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:31 pm

Actually, most honors programs hire in the fall - I think the USPS hires in the spring, but I don't think most of the other programs do (maybe DOT?). They almost never hire during bar prep, though. And there are just a lot fewer honors positions than biglaw - for instance, the last few years, DOL has had 1000+ applicants for ~10 positions. What they select for can be a little different from what biglaw selects for, but it's probably easier for your average decent student at a T14 to get into biglaw than into an honors program.

I know the Pathways program exists, but I've never heard of anyone getting an attorney position through it. It seems a little bit more like the PMF program, which people do out of law school but often involves non-legal positions.

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