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I had pre-OCI callback interviews, while I was working in the city I've mostly been interviewing for, with the local satellites of two V100 firms (one was straight to CB, the other was a follow-up from an in-office screener). Both resulted in dings. OCI has gone quite well thus far (8 callbacks/4 dings with 12 late-week screeners I haven't heard back from; 6 of those callbacks at V15 firms), so I assume I'm not alienating interviewers immediately with some horrible personality defect.

Is this kind of outcome typical (given that both of the firms I spoke with are satellites of firms based elsewhere, and that take very small SA classes), or am I justifiably concerned about "failure to convert callbacks into offers" at this point?

For background, I attend one of HYS; have strong grades; 1L SA; law review; published note; very strong ties to city where interviewing.

What's the average CB --> offer percentage? Slice it however you want (V10 vs. V100, NYC vs. DC, etc.). Curious 2L here.

Sullivan & Cromwell's rate has always been over 90%. In NY, 70-80% for big firms like Cleary. 40-50% for smaller firms like WLRK.
The rates also vary depending on the school. Rates are a bit higher at HYS.

I wouldn't necessarily worry, true satellite offices (like <50 and not growing) are very difficult to get an offer for, unless the firms are prestigious enough that they can cull large numbers of people at the screener stage (very few would be selective enough at HYS for that).

Anonymous User wrote:Sullivan & Cromwell's rate has always been over 90%. In NY, 70-80% for big firms like Cleary. 40-50% for smaller firms like WLRK.
The rates also vary depending on the school. Rates are a bit higher at HYS.

Sul Crom isn't really a good example since they will take anyone who hits their grade threshold and doesn't shit themselves during the interview.

For SullCrom, out of 38 callbacks last year at CLS, 37 were given offers. I wonder what happened to that single one.

TheoO wrote:For SullCrom, out of 38 callbacks last year at CLS, 37 were given offers. I wonder what happened to that single one.

El Pollito wrote:shit themselves during the interview.

TheoO wrote:For SullCrom, out of 38 callbacks last year at CLS, 37 were given offers. I wonder what happened to that single one.

may have withdrawn pre-offer

I don't think the whole S&C "only-grade-check" thing is real. I go to CCN, have a 3.6+ and LR, and didn't get a CB. And I got a CB from all the other NYC firms I had screeners with, so it's not like I have a terrible personality. It might be auto-admit once you get a CB, but they do filter at the screener stage.

What are ways to practice callbacks? I'm at 5 CBs/4 dings with something like 16 still outstanding. I should've been well over the grades threshold for a lot of V20s but I've been dinged by one of them already, so I'm wondering if this is a personality issue that will only be more apparent at the CB stage.

I did only two callbacks (next-day offers, canceled the rest), but in my experience practicing and research were more for screeners than CB's. Be a normal functional adult: make conversation and be curious about the lawyers (their practice, their specific duties, maybe more general things like progression or why they chose the firm, etc.).

You're way better off at the CB stage than at the screener stage. Relax, you'd have be seriously messed up to not convert at least one of those CB's into an offer.

Desert Fox wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:I don't think the whole S&C "only-grade-check" thing is real. I go to CCN, have a 3.6+ and LR, and didn't get a CB. And I got a CB from all the other NYC firms I had screeners with, so it's not like I have a terrible personality. It might be auto-admit once you get a CB, but they do filter at the screener stage.

I've really only heard about it in the CB state, so you might be right, and probably are. But is 3.6 at CCN even that good?

it's good but not amazing