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Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:38 pm
by TFALAWL
Do big-firms provide you with office supplies and desk, or do they give you a budget to get your own.... I hope the latter: check out this bad boy
http://www.wired.com/2014/11/ikea-bekant-desk/

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:43 pm
by Desert Fox
I figured the standing desk fad would be over

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:04 pm
by Anonymous User
How does a standing desk work in your office, DF? Can you just request it?

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:13 pm
by Desert Fox
Anonymous User wrote:How does a standing desk work in your office, DF? Can you just request it?
My firm is too cheap to give you one. But I've heard of others where you can request it.

But several people have bought their own.

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:18 pm
by Ron Don Volante
not a fad DF they're pretty fucking great

yeah you look weird as shit but oh well

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:25 am
by catinthewall
Some of the staff attorneys in our federal courthouse recently got fancy-schmancy, adjustable standing desks because of the whole use-it-or-lose-it approach to the annual budget. (A few of those attorneys said "thanks, but no thanks," but the desks were forced upon them anyway. Because federal budget.) They are pretty sweet. Now they can deny habeas petitions while standing in Tree.

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:46 am
by mvp99
Ron Don Volante wrote:not a fad DF they're pretty fucking great

yeah you look weird as shit but oh well
Any chance you can get your firm to pay for the standing desk b/c being unable to sit down for 12 hours is a disability?

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:02 pm
by Anonymous User
I don't know about firms, but in the federal government if you can get your doctor to certify that you need a standing desk for your back, they'll buy you a nice one.

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:04 pm
by Ron Don Volante
mvp99 wrote:
Ron Don Volante wrote:not a fad DF they're pretty fucking great

yeah you look weird as shit but oh well
Any chance you can get your firm to pay for the standing desk b/c being unable to sit down for 12 hours is a disability?
1L so IDK; had one at my pre-ls job

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:07 pm
by kalvano
My firm just bought everyone adjustable standing desks and it's like a little bit of Heaven reached down and touched the Earth ever so gently.

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:14 pm
by Desert Fox
Everyone I know with adjustable desks use it for like 3 weeks and then slowly stop. After 2 months it might as well be always down.

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:24 pm
by NotMyRealName09
This seems relevant - some current thoughts on the benefits of standing at work:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/health ... avi,37957/

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:39 pm
by Anonymous User
We have adjustable standing desks by default in some offices, not in others. It's a bit random. The firm will buy you one if your office doesn't have one, but you have to provide a doctor's note saying you are physically able to stand up for at least 11 hours straight (which is hilarious).

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:55 pm
by rinkrat19
If you can, get a desk you can motor up and down. Sometimes you just don't want to sit down and sometimes you just don't want to stand. But being able to choose either is the greatest thing.

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:07 pm
by catinthewall
Somewhat related:

What do you bring in to have in your office? I don't have much in my current office, but it's a clerkship, so I am only here for a little while. I'm thinking ahead to my next office in NYC. Should I bring my framed JD and bar wall certificate? Books? Art? Plants? Thanks in advance.

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:47 am
by Anonymous User
catinthewall wrote:Somewhat related:

What do you bring in to have in your office? I don't have much in my current office, but it's a clerkship, so I am only here for a little while. I'm thinking ahead to my next office in NYC. Should I bring my framed JD and bar wall certificate? Books? Art? Plants? Thanks in advance.
Bar certificate and JD are weird. Every attorney has them, and you're not a doctor trying to impress laypeople in your office every day. The only people who will visit your office are other lawyers and other law firm employees. Different story I guess if you're at a small firm where you actually do get laypeople in to discuss their will or something on a regular basis. Everything else mentioned is normal.

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:57 am
by xRON MEXiCOx
whats so great about a standing desk? seems dumb

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:02 am
by A. Nony Mouse
Ron Mexico wrote:whats so great about a standing desk? seems dumb
Don't you have to chop your own wood in winter or something? You probably don't need one, but sitting for 8 hours every day isn't good for you.

And I would say about 80% of people in my government office have their law school diplomas and bar admissions framed in their office. Most federal judges whose chambers I've seen do, too.

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:15 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
catinthewall wrote:Somewhat related:

What do you bring in to have in your office? I don't have much in my current office, but it's a clerkship, so I am only here for a little while. I'm thinking ahead to my next office in NYC. Should I bring my framed JD and bar wall certificate? Books? Art? Plants? Thanks in advance.
Bar certificate and JD are weird. Every attorney has them, and you're not a doctor trying to impress laypeople in your office every day. The only people who will visit your office are other lawyers and other law firm employees. Different story I guess if you're at a small firm where you actually do get laypeople in to discuss their will or something on a regular basis. Everything else mentioned is normal.
Almost every person in biglaw and in government has their diploma and bar certificate on the wall. It's not weird but rather the norm. It has nothing to do with trying to impress people (for most people)--it's about being a part of a profession. Even very senior partners usually have it up on the wall. Although it's also perfectly fine not to have it if you prefer.

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:12 am
by kalvano
I don't think I ever actually opened my bar certificate. Pretty sure it's still in the mailing tube.

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:53 am
by First Offense
Anonymous User wrote:
catinthewall wrote:Somewhat related:

What do you bring in to have in your office? I don't have much in my current office, but it's a clerkship, so I am only here for a little while. I'm thinking ahead to my next office in NYC. Should I bring my framed JD and bar wall certificate? Books? Art? Plants? Thanks in advance.
Bar certificate and JD are weird. Every attorney has them, and you're not a doctor trying to impress laypeople in your office every day. The only people who will visit your office are other lawyers and other law firm employees. Different story I guess if you're at a small firm where you actually do get laypeople in to discuss their will or something on a regular basis. Everything else mentioned is normal.
Every office I went into during callbacks had their JD on the wall at least, many had bar certificates as well. I never thought of it as "trying to impress" anyone, just seems the norm for any profession requiring advanced degrees.

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:14 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
catinthewall wrote:Somewhat related:

What do you bring in to have in your office? I don't have much in my current office, but it's a clerkship, so I am only here for a little while. I'm thinking ahead to my next office in NYC. Should I bring my framed JD and bar wall certificate? Books? Art? Plants? Thanks in advance.
Bar certificate and JD are weird. Every attorney has them, and you're not a doctor trying to impress laypeople in your office every day. The only people who will visit your office are other lawyers and other law firm employees. Different story I guess if you're at a small firm where you actually do get laypeople in to discuss their will or something on a regular basis. Everything else mentioned is normal.
Almost every person in biglaw and in government has their diploma and bar certificate on the wall. It's not weird but rather the norm. It has nothing to do with trying to impress people (for most people)--it's about being a part of a profession. Even very senior partners usually have it up on the wall. Although it's also perfectly fine not to have it if you prefer.
I work in biglaw and have never seen a diploma or bar certificate on the wall. Maybe this is a regional thing?

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:37 pm
by catinthewall
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
catinthewall wrote:Somewhat related:

What do you bring in to have in your office? I don't have much in my current office, but it's a clerkship, so I am only here for a little while. I'm thinking ahead to my next office in NYC. Should I bring my framed JD and bar wall certificate? Books? Art? Plants? Thanks in advance.
Bar certificate and JD are weird. Every attorney has them, and you're not a doctor trying to impress laypeople in your office every day. The only people who will visit your office are other lawyers and other law firm employees. Different story I guess if you're at a small firm where you actually do get laypeople in to discuss their will or something on a regular basis. Everything else mentioned is normal.
Almost every person in biglaw and in government has their diploma and bar certificate on the wall. It's not weird but rather the norm. It has nothing to do with trying to impress people (for most people)--it's about being a part of a profession. Even very senior partners usually have it up on the wall. Although it's also perfectly fine not to have it if you prefer.
I work in biglaw and have never seen a diploma or bar certificate on the wall. Maybe this is a regional thing?
I'm going to BigFed (DOJ) in NYC, not BigLaw. Sounds like it varies from office-to-office. Guess I'll wait and see what the other attorneys have when I get there. Thanks!

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:08 pm
by A. Nony Mouse
I'd like to put my JD and bar admission in my office, but I've been too cheap to get them framed. Mostly because there isn't anywhere else I'd like to put them (I certainly don't want them up in my home).

Re: Office-Space Schwag

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:38 pm
by rinkrat19
I think most attorneys I've seen have their diplomas on the wall, in firms and in government. Academia too, now that I think about it.
Not sure about bar certificates.

I probably wouldn't bother if I were there just for a year clerkship, though.