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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by alicrimson » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:40 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Besides Prosecutor/PD/PI work, is there any way a young attorney might have the opportunity to speak in a courtroom? Or is it reserved for older partners? I'm a bit stuck on which route to pursue because I think I'd like litigation, but I want to speak and present ideas etc.
Present ideas to court? Probs not for a while. If you work with the right shareholders, often times, they will let you pipe in on strategy stuff. You just have to do it at the right time and sound like you know things. On the whole, the shareholders at my firm are very receptive to ideas and talking about different ways to approach things/potential issues I think need more research, based on what I've seen so far.


As for getting into court, if you do pro bono or take on smaller value cases that have high volume (think: foreclosures, consumer protection stuff, etc.), you can find yourself in a courtroom. This stuff tends to be pretty basic, and the bank clients don't mind letting juniors take the reigns on this stuff. I've been working for almost three months and Wednesday will be my second hearing (the first was not substantive, so it really shouldn't even count. I basically got to bill for driving my car somewhere, standing up, saying my name, and telling the judge the parties have reached an agreement during arbitration that will be finalized in the next two weeks. Next one is substantive). I get to help with a pro bono trial in January as well. So, random stuff like that can be done, you just won't do anything that is worth much.

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by baal hadad » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:08 pm

I got to do a mediation on a consumer protection claim except I did it on behalf of the lender

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:19 pm

Thanks so much for the advice above. I guess the key is to find the right firm where I can present ideas and talk (what I like to do) and then on the side take pro bono work that lets me litigate in court a bit.

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by sprezz » Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:50 pm

what's the most annoying quality opposing counsel can have // most annoying thing they do?

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by First Offense » Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:52 pm

What area is booming?

What time do you get to go home on average?

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by prezidentv8 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:02 pm

sprezz wrote:what's the most annoying quality opposing counsel can have // most annoying thing they do?
Rolling out the same failed arguments repeatedly:

"My client had no knowledge of the hazard."
/produces e-mails where client is describing exact hazard
"My client had no knowledge of the hazard."

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by alicrimson » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:45 pm

baal hadad wrote:I got to do a mediation on a consumer protection claim except I did it on behalf of the lender

That's how my consumer protection stuff is too.

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by alicrimson » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:48 pm

First Offense wrote:What area is booming?

What time do you get to go home on average?

Not sure what you mean. My lit group is always very busy though.


I typically get in around 9:00 and leave around 6:30. I take two ish hours off for dinner and exercise. Then, I try to bill another hour and a half. I also like to bill 4-6 hours on Sat or Sun. On average, I've been billing ~45-50 hours a week, and I work through lunch. It really isn't too bad.

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by Nebby » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:51 pm

Do you wish you would have majored in a real degree and not gone to law school?

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:35 pm

First Offense wrote:What area is booming?

What time do you get to go home on average?
I have absolutely no idea what is booming. Maybe IP?

I usually get home about 6:30.

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:35 pm

baal hadad wrote:I got to do a mediation on a consumer protection claim except I did it on behalf of the lender
OP here I also represent lenders in consumer protection suits interestingly enough

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Post by Anonymous User » Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:36 pm

CounselorNebby wrote:Do you wish you would have majored in a real degree and not gone to law school?
Not at all, I like my job and have no other skills. It was this or teaching.

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Post by Kimikho » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:14 pm

Would you recommend litigation for someone who really doesn't want to be in a courtroom (given the fact that most litigators don't end up there anyways)?

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by Nebby » Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:47 am

Who pulls the more attractive lays--lit or corp?

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by goden » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:49 am

So it's best to specialize nowadays right? What's good to specialize in

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by baal hadad » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:06 am

Anonymous User wrote:
baal hadad wrote:I got to do a mediation on a consumer protection claim except I did it on behalf of the lender
OP here I also represent lenders in consumer protection suits interestingly enough
I sorta like it bc most of the disputes as small so I can do most of the work and learn

It's nowhere near a majority of what I do thoigh

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by baal hadad » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:06 am

goden wrote:So it's best to specialize nowadays right? What's good to specialize in
Not "commercial litigation"

Specialize ASAP tho

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by alicrimson » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:55 pm

Kimikho wrote:Would you recommend litigation for someone who really doesn't want to be in a courtroom (given the fact that most litigators don't end up there anyways)?
Yes, as you said, odds are you won't go to court any time soon...unless you seek those opportunities out or are at a very small firm. Even if you go to a larger firm and find yourself covering hearings, they probably won't be that big of a deal. At any kind of large firm, you probably will never have to do your best Johnnie Cochran impersonation before a jury.

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:31 pm

Kimikho wrote:Would you recommend litigation for someone who really doesn't want to be in a courtroom (given the fact that most litigators don't end up there anyways)?
Knee-jerk reaction, I'd say no unless you are going to a big firm and know for sure you won't last more than 3 years. Down the line when you're in a position to, you shouldn't take cases unless you're willing and able to take them to trial if need be.

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by KD35 » Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:06 am

CounselorNebby wrote:Who pulls the more attractive lays--lit or corp?
I'm sad this has been overlooked. But I also feel like TCR is corp because you can throw out the big deals you are working on, instead of having to say that you represent Evil Corp A against Puny Harmed Class Group B.

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by prezidentv8 » Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:10 am

KD35 wrote:
CounselorNebby wrote:Who pulls the more attractive lays--lit or corp?
I'm sad this has been overlooked. But I also feel like TCR is corp because you can throw out the big deals you are working on, instead of having to say that you represent Evil Corp A against Puny Harmed Class Group B.
Just do rep the side of justice, bro.

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by Kimikho » Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:10 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Kimikho wrote:Would you recommend litigation for someone who really doesn't want to be in a courtroom (given the fact that most litigators don't end up there anyways)?
Knee-jerk reaction, I'd say no unless you are going to a big firm and know for sure you won't last more than 3 years. Down the line when you're in a position to, you shouldn't take cases unless you're willing and able to take them to trial if need be.
Is this the OP?

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

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Re: Litigators taking questions from law students

Post by LeDique » Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:21 am

Kimikho wrote:Would you recommend litigation for someone who really doesn't want to be in a courtroom (given the fact that most litigators don't end up there anyways)?
Why don't you want to be in a courtroom?

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Post by Nebby » Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:23 am

KD35 wrote:
CounselorNebby wrote:Who pulls the more attractive lays--lit or corp?
I'm sad this has been overlooked. But I also feel like TCR is corp because you can throw out the big deals you are working on, instead of having to say that you represent Evil Corp A against Puny Harmed Class Group B.
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