2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread Forum

[84651846190]

Regardless of how much 2100 versus 2000 sucks, it's not like it should be a surprise to Quinn associates that doing less than that means you're failing to meet expectations. I imagine getting a lower bonus is only one of many ways in which the firm tells you to get your shit straight if you aren't doing 2200+. Doesn't sound like a place that abides coasting.

1900 hours is hardly coasting. The difference between 1900 and 2200 is never having vacation. That may not matter to you if you're some kind of soulless striver, but most normal people go nuts under such conditions.

[moonman157]

So like, what is the incentive of Quinn then? They're super grade-selective, so the people that go there have plenty of options (presumably). Is it really just people drinking the kool-aid? I know it's a good firm, especially if you're set on litigation, but I can't imagine it's worth it.

[dixiecupdrinking]

Regardless of how much 2100 versus 2000 sucks, it's not like it should be a surprise to Quinn associates that doing less than that means you're failing to meet expectations. I imagine getting a lower bonus is only one of many ways in which the firm tells you to get your shit straight if you aren't doing 2200+. Doesn't sound like a place that abides coasting.

1900 hours is hardly coasting. The difference between 1900 and 2200 is never having vacation. That may not matter to you if you're some kind of soulless striver, but most normal people go nuts under such conditions.

Yeah I'm just saying if you go to Quinn and are surprised that the standard is "soulless striver," you weren't paying attention.

Basically seems like a shithole place to work all around, I guess is my point.

[Desert Fox]

So like, what is the incentive of Quinn then? They're super grade-selective, so the people that go there have plenty of options (presumably). Is it really just people drinking the kool-aid? I know it's a good firm, especially if you're set on litigation, but I can't imagine it's worth it.

Their selectivity is wildly overrated. At Northwestern it was like 3.6 cutoff. Thats top 30%.

[fats provolone]

zero personality filter also broadens the pool

[mvp99]

Regardless of how much 2100 versus 2000 sucks, it's not like it should be a surprise to Quinn associates that doing less than that means you're failing to meet expectations. I imagine getting a lower bonus is only one of many ways in which the firm tells you to get your shit straight if you aren't doing 2200+. Doesn't sound like a place that abides coasting.

1900 hours is hardly coasting. The difference between 1900 and 2200 is never having vacation. That may not matter to you if you're some kind of soulless striver, but most normal people go nuts under such conditions.

Yeah I'm just saying if you go to Quinn and are surprised that the standard is "soulless striver," you weren't paying attention.

Basically seems like a shithole place to work all around, I guess is my point.

yea but what about the 90%+ rate of cases won

[dixiecupdrinking]

The whole "just come to a cocktail party fuck OCI!" recruiting model seems to say it all about the firm. It's a way to be cheap and catch a whole bunch of anonymous law students in their recruiting net, passed off as some cool, idiosyncratic move. Have some $2 flip flops, you'll work the chillest 100 hour weeks here!

[84651846190]

So like, what is the incentive of Quinn then? They're super grade-selective, so the people that go there have plenty of options (presumably). Is it really just people drinking the kool-aid? I know it's a good firm, especially if you're set on litigation, but I can't imagine it's worth it.

lol, they're not that grade selective. i don't know where this falsehood originated. probably from the PR people at Quinn. they are probably less selective than firms like Latham

[fats provolone]

a lot of ppl with good grades probably do go to quinn. but that's what happens when you select for weirdos

[84651846190]

i mean, this guy got a job at Quinn straight off of his clerkship (with no honors from Washington and Lee): http://www.quinnemanuel.com/attorneys/patel-ketan

if Quinn is grade selective, they certainly don't have hard cutoffs like Wilmer, Covington, GDC or other firms.

[fats provolone]

he graduated from UF in 09 though. he saw three national championships. i think he knows winning.

[KD35]

So like, what is the incentive of Quinn then? They're super grade-selective, so the people that go there have plenty of options (presumably). Is it really just people drinking the kool-aid? I know it's a good firm, especially if you're set on litigation, but I can't imagine it's worth it.

lol, they're not that grade selective. i don't know where this falsehood originated. probably from the PR people at Quinn. they are probably less selective than firms like Latham

Is Latham considered that grade selective?

[Old Gregg]

So like, what is the incentive of Quinn then? They're super grade-selective, so the people that go there have plenty of options (presumably). Is it really just people drinking the kool-aid? I know it's a good firm, especially if you're set on litigation, but I can't imagine it's worth it.

lol, they're not that grade selective. i don't know where this falsehood originated. probably from the PR people at Quinn. they are probably less selective than firms like Latham

Is Latham considered that grade selective?

If ur at HYSCCN, none of these firms are particularly grade selective barring WLRK, Boies, Susman, W&C, S&C and a few others.

They could be personality selective, though. S&C is not. Got the grades? You'll get the offer.

[Big Shrimpin]

Fatduck throwing his Quinn Sandals in the trash.

SPS, a TTT in decline. LJL at 2011 KE 2400 hr bros stylin on 2011 QE 2700 hr flip flop-havers. CHECK YOU BONUSES, John Quinn.

highly credited poast

[anonnymouse]

Fatduck throwing his Quinn Sandals in the trash.

SPS, a TTT in decline. LJL at 2011 KE 2400 hr bros stylin on 2011 QE 2700 hr flip flop-havers. CHECK YOU BONUSES, John Quinn.

highly credited poast

tyty

[fats provolone]

sup shrimps

[Big Shrimpin]

sup shrimps

still not fired

living the dream

going to start poasting more in 2015

[Big Shrimpin]

Fatduck throwing his Quinn Sandals in the trash.

SPS, a TTT in decline. LJL at 2011 KE 2400 hr bros stylin on 2011 QE 2700 hr flip flop-havers. CHECK YOU BONUSES, John Quinn.

highly credited poast

tyty

yeh

but tbh, fck the meat grinder, big bonuses or not

id take free (consecutive) days off/no consequences over a fatter bonus...1 vaca in 2 yrs

[2014]

The whole "just come to a cocktail party fuck OCI!" recruiting model seems to say it all about the firm. It's a way to be cheap and catch a whole bunch of anonymous law students in their recruiting net, passed off as some cool, idiosyncratic move. Have some $2 flip flops, you'll work the chillest 100 hour weeks here!

It's probably far more expensive to send 10+ attorneys and rent out a restaurant than it is to send 2-3 to OCI. They still fly people out for callbacks and pay for hotels and shit. There are a lot of valid criticisms of Quinn's model imo but their recruiting schtick isn't done to save money.

[911 crisis actor]

Regardless of how much 2100 versus 2000 sucks, it's not like it should be a surprise to Quinn associates that doing less than that means you're failing to meet expectations. I imagine getting a lower bonus is only one of many ways in which the firm tells you to get your shit straight if you aren't doing 2200+. Doesn't sound like a place that abides coasting.

1900 hours is hardly coasting. The difference between 1900 and 2200 is never having vacation. That may not matter to you if you're some kind of soulless striver, but most normal people go nuts under such conditions.

Yeah I'm just saying if you go to Quinn and are surprised that the standard is "soulless striver," you weren't paying attention.

Basically seems like a shithole place to work all around, I guess is my point.

yea but what about the 90%+ rate of cases won

88.6% now, breh

[Anonymous User]

The whole "just come to a cocktail party fuck OCI!" recruiting model seems to say it all about the firm. It's a way to be cheap and catch a whole bunch of anonymous law students in their recruiting net, passed off as some cool, idiosyncratic move. Have some $2 flip flops, you'll work the chillest 100 hour weeks here!

It's probably far more expensive to send 10+ attorneys and rent out a restaurant than it is to send 2-3 to OCI. They still fly people out for callbacks and pay for hotels and shit. There are a lot of valid criticisms of Quinn's model imo but their recruiting schtick isn't done to save money.

Quinn picked me up at LAX in a black car. I thought it was a nice touch.

[fats provolone]

awesome

[911 crisis actor]

The whole "just come to a cocktail party fuck OCI!" recruiting model seems to say it all about the firm. It's a way to be cheap and catch a whole bunch of anonymous law students in their recruiting net, passed off as some cool, idiosyncratic move. Have some $2 flip flops, you'll work the chillest 100 hour weeks here!

It's probably far more expensive to send 10+ attorneys and rent out a restaurant than it is to send 2-3 to OCI. They still fly people out for callbacks and pay for hotels and shit. There are a lot of valid criticisms of Quinn's model imo but their recruiting schtick isn't done to save money.

Renting out a Chipotle definitely more expensive than doing OCI

[fats provolone]

don't schools charge a fucking fortune for interview slots?

[sprezz]

i thought so too, so google:

UCLA is $600 + $179 per room per day. http://law.ucla.edu/~/media/Assets/Care ... _2014.ashx

USC is $775 per room per day, http://weblaw.usc.edu/assets/docs/caree ... Invite.pdf

uva looks to be $800 for the first room, plus $500 for subsequent rooms. http://www.law.virginia.edu/lawweb/laww ... /Employers

stanford is $600 per room per day, https://www.law.stanford.edu/careers/em ... l-oci#fees

harvard is tbd, http://www.law.harvard.edu/current/care ... index.html

none of these mention the hospitality suites, which i think are supposed to be expensive. heard multiple recruiters bitching about their ROI when they found out they didn't get the top tier hospitality suite room in my T11.33333333. this may be unique to the lawskools that use their own facilities for interviews rather than a hotel or whatever