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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:14 pm
by Anonymous User
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Re: How miserable my life will be if I go to a V3 law firm?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:31 pm
by TTRansfer
Less miserable than V2. More miserable than V4.

Re: How miserable my life will be if I go to a V3 law firm?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:37 pm
by SLS_AMG
Anonymous User wrote:Have to choose among a V3 law firm (okay, it's S&C) and a couple of other V15 law firms.
Probably will do corporate, and I am that kind of person who cannot physically concentrate on anything without 7-8 hours sleep a day.
Among the law firms, S&C has the strongest corporate practice, but to be billed 2,500+ hours a year sounds really terrifying.
Any comments on the hours at S&C? Can people at least have 7 hours sleep, even at the busiest season? Or do they actually take the vacation?
S&C is V4, not V3. HTH.

Re: How miserable my life will be if I go to a V3 law firm?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:46 pm
by Anonymous User
SLS_AMG wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Have to choose among a V3 law firm (okay, it's S&C) and a couple of other V15 law firms.
Probably will do corporate, and I am that kind of person who cannot physically concentrate on anything without 7-8 hours sleep a day.
Among the law firms, S&C has the strongest corporate practice, but to be billed 2,500+ hours a year sounds really terrifying.
Any comments on the hours at S&C? Can people at least have 7 hours sleep, even at the busiest season? Or do they actually take the vacation?
S&C is V4, not V3. HTH.
Thanks for the correction!

Re: How miserable my life will be if I go to a V3 law firm?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:50 pm
by SLS_AMG
Anonymous User wrote:
SLS_AMG wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Have to choose among a V3 law firm (okay, it's S&C) and a couple of other V15 law firms.
Probably will do corporate, and I am that kind of person who cannot physically concentrate on anything without 7-8 hours sleep a day.
Among the law firms, S&C has the strongest corporate practice, but to be billed 2,500+ hours a year sounds really terrifying.
Any comments on the hours at S&C? Can people at least have 7 hours sleep, even at the busiest season? Or do they actually take the vacation?
S&C is V4, not V3. HTH.
Thanks for the correction!
Oh, DF, you almost had me. But this gave you away.

Re: How miserable my life will be if I go to a V4 law firm?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:38 pm
by Anonymous User
hope you're not too attached to sleep or your family...

Re: How miserable my life will be if I go to a V4 law firm?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:18 pm
by Anonymous User
That you call it V4 and not S&C makes me think you'll fit in just fine.

Re: How miserable my life will be if I go to a V4 law firm?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:01 pm
by Anonymous User
I chose from between four of the V5 and I actually really liked S&C, but wound up choosing Davis Polk as far as NY is concerned. (I did not have Wachtell as an option).

If you want the highest caliber transactional work and you're okay with tough hours/not looking for a very social work life then I'd go for S&C over anywhere but Wachtell.

Re: How miserable my life will be if I go to a V4 law firm?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:01 pm
by Desert Fox
Anonymous User wrote:I chose from between four of the V5 and I actually really liked S&C, but wound up choosing Davis Polk as far as NY is concerned. (I did not have Wachtell as an option).

If you want the highest caliber transactional work and you're okay with tough hours/not looking for a very social work life then I'd go for S&C over anywhere but Wachtell.
/jbagel

Re: How miserable my life will be if I go to a V4 law firm?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:12 pm
by baal hadad
The fact that u say v4 tells me your life is already pretty miserable

Re: How miserable my life will be if I go to a V4 law firm?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:19 pm
by SLS_AMG
Anonymous User wrote:I chose from between four of the V5 and I actually really liked S&C, but wound up choosing Davis Polk as far as NY is concerned. (I did not have Wachtell as an option).

If you want the highest caliber transactional work and you're okay with tough hours/not looking for a very social work life then I'd go for S&C over anywhere but Wachtell.
Ah, so you chose Davis Polk because you wanted lower caliber transactional work with hours that weren't tough relative to S&C. Got it.


I don't know how S&C's marketing team keeps convincing everyone that their work quality is higher than that of Cravath, Davis Polk, et. al., but it's apparently working.

Re: How miserable my life will be if I go to a V4 law firm?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:21 pm
by Anonymous User
SLS_AMG wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I chose from between four of the V5 and I actually really liked S&C, but wound up choosing Davis Polk as far as NY is concerned. (I did not have Wachtell as an option).

If you want the highest caliber transactional work and you're okay with tough hours/not looking for a very social work life then I'd go for S&C over anywhere but Wachtell.
Ah, so you chose Davis Polk because you wanted lower caliber transactional work with hours that weren't tough relative to S&C. Got it.


I don't know how S&C's marketing team keeps convincing everyone that their work quality is higher than that of Cravath, Davis Polk, et. al., but it's apparently working.
Same way that Cleary became a "culture" firm and Paul Weiss isn't considered a sweatshop.

Re: How miserable my life will be if I go to a V4 law firm?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:27 pm
by Anonymous User
SLS_AMG wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I chose from between four of the V5 and I actually really liked S&C, but wound up choosing Davis Polk as far as NY is concerned. (I did not have Wachtell as an option).

If you want the highest caliber transactional work and you're okay with tough hours/not looking for a very social work life then I'd go for S&C over anywhere but Wachtell.
Ah, so you chose Davis Polk because you wanted lower caliber transactional work with hours that weren't tough relative to S&C. Got it.


I don't know how S&C's marketing team keeps convincing everyone that their work quality is higher than that of Cravath, Davis Polk, et. al., but it's apparently working.
No, I chose davis because I liked them better and the differences are incredibly marginal (also hedging lit but didn't get boies or PW). But I liked S&C more than I thought I would. Sorry it wasn't clear.

You're right they do have a good marketing game

Re: How miserable my life will be if I go to a V4 law firm?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:35 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:I chose from between four of the V5 and I actually really liked S&C, but wound up choosing Davis Polk as far as NY is concerned. (I did not have Wachtell as an option).

If you want the highest caliber transactional work and you're okay with tough hours/not looking for a very social work life then I'd go for S&C over anywhere but Wachtell.
You will get the highest caliber corporate work at all of V5 (with slight differences in practice areas) so that's just a strange reason to choose S&C