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PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:31 pm
by Anonymous User
Thanks.

Sincerely,
No-Offer Club Member

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:33 pm
by Desert Fox
This would help you how?

It's not like they are going to take two spots by waiting.

You should be mass mailing not begging for someone's sloppy seconds.

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:41 pm
by Anonymous User
Desert Fox wrote:This would help you how?

It's not like they are going to take two spots by waiting.

You should be mass mailing not begging for someone's sloppy seconds.
I'm sure you're intelligent enough to know how holding multiple offers at once could be detrimental those in my position who have the possibility of being on some type of wait-list.

Thx for the advice bud

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:44 pm
by mr.hands
Desert Fox wrote:This would help you how?

It's not like they are going to take two spots by waiting.

You should be mass mailing not begging for someone's sloppy seconds.
This is absurd advice. Of course firms will extend offers to other candidates if people don't accept them.

Also a job offer isn't "sloppy seconds," particularly in this economy. I have no idea what you're talking about...

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:57 pm
by Desert Fox
Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:This would help you how?

It's not like they are going to take two spots by waiting.

You should be mass mailing not begging for someone's sloppy seconds.
I'm sure you're intelligent enough to know how holding multiple offers at once could be detrimental those in my position who have the possibility of being on some type of wait-list.

Thx for the advice bud
If you mean waiting an extra week or so is detrimental, sure. But it isn't.

Also, firms put out way more offers than they they need because people turn them down. You turning them down won't mean a new person gets an offer. An offer isn't a "Seat" at the SA program.

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:03 pm
by Anonymous User
Sure I'll make a relatively huge career decision so that you can hear a week earlier. :roll:

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:38 pm
by PvblivsScipio
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:This would help you how?

It's not like they are going to take two spots by waiting.

You should be mass mailing not begging for someone's sloppy seconds.
I'm sure you're intelligent enough to know how holding multiple offers at once could be detrimental those in my position who have the possibility of being on some type of wait-list.

Thx for the advice bud
If you mean waiting an extra week or so is detrimental, sure. But it isn't.

Also, firms put out way more offers than they they need because people turn them down. You turning them down won't mean a new person gets an offer. An offer isn't a "Seat" at the SA program.
This is true, but firms do keep a few people on the B-list.

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:54 pm
by bearsfan23
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:This would help you how?

It's not like they are going to take two spots by waiting.

You should be mass mailing not begging for someone's sloppy seconds.
I'm sure you're intelligent enough to know how holding multiple offers at once could be detrimental those in my position who have the possibility of being on some type of wait-list.

Thx for the advice bud
If you mean waiting an extra week or so is detrimental, sure. But it isn't.

Also, firms put out way more offers than they they need because people turn them down. You turning them down won't mean a new person gets an offer. An offer isn't a "Seat" at the SA program.
You serious? You really have zero idea how legal hiring works? For firms that are hiring only a few SAs, somebody turning down and offer absolutely opens up an offer for somebody else.

It won't make a difference at a place like Davis Polk or STB, but it definitely does at smaller offices.

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:55 pm
by Actus Reus
Agree with DF. Turning them down doesn't do you any good.

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:58 pm
by JamMasterJ
bearsfan23 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:This would help you how?

It's not like they are going to take two spots by waiting.

You should be mass mailing not begging for someone's sloppy seconds.
I'm sure you're intelligent enough to know how holding multiple offers at once could be detrimental those in my position who have the possibility of being on some type of wait-list.

Thx for the advice bud
If you mean waiting an extra week or so is detrimental, sure. But it isn't.

Also, firms put out way more offers than they they need because people turn them down. You turning them down won't mean a new person gets an offer. An offer isn't a "Seat" at the SA program.
You serious? You really have zero idea how legal hiring works? For firms that are hiring only a few SAs, somebody turning down and offer absolutely opens up an offer for somebody else.

It won't make a difference at a place like Davis Polk or STB, but it definitely does at smaller offices.
but you're aware they will ask you eventually?

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:58 pm
by Desert Fox
bearsfan23 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:This would help you how?

It's not like they are going to take two spots by waiting.

You should be mass mailing not begging for someone's sloppy seconds.
I'm sure you're intelligent enough to know how holding multiple offers at once could be detrimental those in my position who have the possibility of being on some type of wait-list.

Thx for the advice bud
If you mean waiting an extra week or so is detrimental, sure. But it isn't.

Also, firms put out way more offers than they they need because people turn them down. You turning them down won't mean a new person gets an offer. An offer isn't a "Seat" at the SA program.
You serious? You really have zero idea how legal hiring works? For firms that are hiring only a few SAs, somebody turning down and offer absolutely opens up an offer for somebody else.

It won't make a difference at a place like Davis Polk or STB, but it definitely does at smaller offices.
Even small offices factor in acceptance.

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:10 pm
by Anonymous User
I've interviewed with a lot of biglaw firms' smaller offices at OCI, which was over 4 weeks ago, and I still haven't heard a single thing from quite a few of them. I think people declining offers has to have some impact on my odds of getting CBs at these offices. Otherwise, I feel I would have been dinged a long time ago. I'll gladly take market paying sloppy seconds.

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:37 pm
by Anonymous User
Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:43 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
Have you rejected at least one yet and passed it forward? If not you're part of the problem, not the solution

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:44 pm
by Desert Fox
Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
Obviously if not enough people accept there will be space.

But the timing does not matter and it's not a 1-1 ratio.

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:45 pm
by Actus Reus
This is kind of silly. They'll maybe give you an offer in due time if someone rejects. Don't make others rush the decision.

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:46 pm
by mr.hands
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
Have you rejected at least one yet and passed it forward? If not you're part of the problem, not the solution
While this "sloppy seconds" line is absurd and rejecting offers does help other candidates to a (probably small) degree, I think you're going to far here. Let the man/woman make a decision. He's not sitting on several offers and twiddling his thumbs.

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:47 pm
by Tiago Splitter
Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
People are only helping others if they turn down all of their offers. Unless you think there are law students out there accepting multiple offers. Come on people.

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:47 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
Have you rejected at least one yet and passed it forward? If not you're part of the problem, not the solution
Yes. Have accepted at my top choice, rejected my other 4 offers immediately thereafter.

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:51 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
Have you rejected at least one yet and passed it forward? If not you're part of the problem, not the solution
Yes. Have accepted at my top choice, rejected my other 4 offers immediately thereafter.
I got an offer from my top choice. Didnt reject others right away, went to offer dinner at top choice and learned information that made top choice just a choice. I'd advise people with multiple offers to collect as much information as possible before committing. You only get to start your career once.

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:53 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
Have you rejected at least one yet and passed it forward? If not you're part of the problem, not the solution
Yes. Have accepted at my top choice, rejected my other 4 offers immediately thereafter.
I don't think its outrageous to ask that others with multiple offers to narrow it down to 3, and to not wait the entire 28 days to make a decision. it would be helpful for other people. obviously they don't have to, morally or practically, but it could help a person out who only has 1 or 2 CBs who might be one a wait list.

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:54 pm
by Anonymous User
Tiago Splitter wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
People are only helping others if they turn down all of their offers. Unless you think there are law students out there accepting multiple offers. Come on people.
Agreed. It's nonsense to think that people could work at more than 1 firm during the summer

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:56 pm
by Anonymous User
Everyone, this is a very stressful time for us all, those with offers having to decide and those without any. If you legitimately need more time to make up your mind, please do take it--this is a serious decision that shouldn't be taken lightly. However, if you definitely know where you want to go for the sumer and are just sitting on your other offers until the days run out just for the sake of doing so, then you're just a jerk to everyone involved.

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:57 pm
by Tiago Splitter
Anonymous User wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Got two offers off of hold lists at satellite offices of V50 firms, so in my experience, yes, it does make a difference if people reject offers.
People are only helping others if they turn down all of their offers. Unless you think there are law students out there accepting multiple offers. Come on people.
Agreed. It's nonsense to think that people could work at more than 1 firm during the summer
PSA: Don't split?

Re: PSA: If you have multiple offers, start rejecting some!

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:03 pm
by ymmv
Anonymous User wrote:Everyone, this is a very stressful time for us all, those with offers having to decide and those without any. If you legitimately need more time to make up your mind, please do take it--this is a serious decision that shouldn't be taken lightly. However, if you definitely know where you want to go for the sumer and are just sitting on your other offers until the days run out just for the sake of doing so, then you're just a jerk to everyone involved.
I can almost guarantee you none of us are just sitting on offers for the fuck of it.