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Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, Phoenix, San Francisco - which office is the busiest? Differences between the offices?

Bump. Relevant to my interests.

Any information out there on callbacks and/or offers at any of these offices?

Be careful with this firm. It's one of the few examples where having this firm on your resume will heavily constrict your ability to move elsewhere. If you want to stay in private practice on the defense side forever, then go for it. But if you're passionate about employment issues and are considering one day working for a plaintiff employment firm, look elsewhere.

Tanicius wrote:Be careful with this firm. It's one of the few examples where having this firm on your resume will heavily constrict your ability to move elsewhere. If you want to stay in private practice on the defense side forever, then go for it. But if you're passionate about employment issues and are considering one day working for a plaintiff employment firm, look elsewhere.

Do you say this from firsthand experience? My instinct tells me an attorney in management side labor/employment would be able to move to the plaintiff side similar to a criminal prosecutor moving to defense. Why is this not the case?

Even if plaintiff work is not an option, would a Littler attorney have the ability to move to in-house fairly easily?

Anonymous User wrote:

Tanicius wrote:Be careful with this firm. It's one of the few examples where having this firm on your resume will heavily constrict your ability to move elsewhere. If you want to stay in private practice on the defense side forever, then go for it. But if you're passionate about employment issues and are considering one day working for a plaintiff employment firm, look elsewhere.

Do you say this from firsthand experience? My instinct tells me an attorney in management side labor/employment would be able to move to the plaintiff side similar to a criminal prosecutor moving to defense. Why is this not the case?

Even if plaintiff work is not an option, would a Littler attorney have the ability to move to in-house fairly easily?

I have friends who do plaintiff and defense-side employment law. The plaintiff-minded people were afraid of even touching Littler. It has a very devious reputation among plaintiff firms. Prosecutor offices and in-house offices at corporations won't give it a second thought, however, since they don't have the negative experiences that plaintiff employment firms do with Littler.

Tanicius wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

Tanicius wrote:Be careful with this firm. It's one of the few examples where having this firm on your resume will heavily constrict your ability to move elsewhere. If you want to stay in private practice on the defense side forever, then go for it. But if you're passionate about employment issues and are considering one day working for a plaintiff employment firm, look elsewhere.

Do you say this from firsthand experience? My instinct tells me an attorney in management side labor/employment would be able to move to the plaintiff side similar to a criminal prosecutor moving to defense. Why is this not the case?

Even if plaintiff work is not an option, would a Littler attorney have the ability to move to in-house fairly easily?

I have friends who do plaintiff and defense-side employment law. The plaintiff-minded people were afraid of even touching Littler. It has a very devious reputation among plaintiff firms. Prosecutor offices and in-house offices at corporations won't give it a second thought, however, since they don't have the negative experiences that plaintiff employment firms do with Littler.

Can you expand on this devious reputation? I am not questioning you, just am interested in the firm and looking for more information.

Anonymous User wrote:Bump. Relevant to my interests.

Any information out there on callbacks and/or offers at any of these offices?

Chicago office has had callbacks. Not sure if any offers have been extended yet.

Tanicius wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

Tanicius wrote:Be careful with this firm. It's one of the few examples where having this firm on your resume will heavily constrict your ability to move elsewhere. If you want to stay in private practice on the defense side forever, then go for it. But if you're passionate about employment issues and are considering one day working for a plaintiff employment firm, look elsewhere.

Do you say this from firsthand experience? My instinct tells me an attorney in management side labor/employment would be able to move to the plaintiff side similar to a criminal prosecutor moving to defense. Why is this not the case?

Even if plaintiff work is not an option, would a Littler attorney have the ability to move to in-house fairly easily?

I have friends who do plaintiff and defense-side employment law. The plaintiff-minded people were afraid of even touching Littler. It has a very devious reputation among plaintiff firms. Prosecutor offices and in-house offices at corporations won't give it a second thought, however, since they don't have the negative experiences that plaintiff employment firms do with Littler.

This is *very* relevant to my interests. Do you have any more info? Does this apply to all big L&E firms, like Ogletree Deakins and Jackson Lewis, or mainly Littler?

All right, I'm really not trying to make blanket statements here. I'm not an employment lawyer, so everything I'm saying about the firm's reputation is hearsay. I have a few friends who did plaintiff-side work in law school, want to do it immediately, but cannot because most plaintiff firms like to see experience first. The solution is to work at a defense-side big corporate firm for a few years, pay off as much of your loans as you can, and then lateral into a plaintiff firm or EEOC/DoL/AG's office.

Among those student friends of mine, Littler had a particularly bad reputation as a firm that is nasty to both plaintiffs and Littler's own employees. It's supposedly got very low job satisfaction, which is sucky for a NLJ firm that pays below-market. What my plaintiff friends tell me is that Littler was their very last option for the defense-side "experience" phase of their careers because it is so cutthroat and has such a dirty reputation in the courtroom that plaintiff firms do not think well of anyone who has allowed themselves to work there. In other words, they supposedly view Littler alums as people without a conscience.

Thinking practically, I have to imagine that such a reputation could not be universal. I am sure there are great lawyers at that firm, and I am sure there are lots of plaintiff firms around the country that don't give a damn, and probably even view it as a positive that you have developed quality experience on the other side of the aisle. Ask around to alums and friends of yours who do/are going into employment law.

had a callback in SF while ago and have yet to hear....

Anonymous User wrote:had a callback in SF while ago and have yet to hear....

Got an offer from the SF office on the 22nd I won't be accepting.

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Bump. Relevant to my interests.

Any information out there on callbacks and/or offers at any of these offices?

Chicago office has had callbacks. Not sure if any offers have been extended yet.

Anyone else have information on the Chicago office screener -> callback -> offer timeline?

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:had a callback in SF while ago and have yet to hear....

Got an offer from the SF office on the 22nd I won't be accepting.

Why?

mr.hands wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:had a callback in SF while ago and have yet to hear....

Got an offer from the SF office on the 22nd I won't be accepting.

Why?

1) Got better offers

2) Don't have my heart set on E&L. Would prefer a summer program with a rotation.

3) Don't have my heart set on SF.

FWIW, the attorneys were dope.

when was the callback?

Anonymous User wrote:when was the callback?

And when was the offer?

bump....callback a couple weeks ago (SF) and radio silence so far...

Anonymous User wrote:bump....callback a couple weeks ago (SF) and radio silence so far...

I declined on Tuesday. Hopefully you'll hear something soon.

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:bump....callback a couple weeks ago (SF) and radio silence so far...

I declined on Tuesday. Hopefully you'll hear something soon.

When was your callback? When did you get your offer?

Any post-call back rejections for the SF office? No word since my call back weeks ago.

Anonymous User wrote:Any post-call back rejections for the SF office? No word since my call back weeks ago.

when was your callback?

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Any post-call back rejections for the SF office? No word since my call back weeks ago.

when was your callback?

3 weeks ago.

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Any post-call back rejections for the SF office? No word since my call back weeks ago.

when was your callback?

3 weeks ago.

me too.

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Any post-call back rejections for the SF office? No word since my call back weeks ago.

when was your callback?

3 weeks ago.

me too.

Have either of you heard any news?