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Curious about Nelson Mullins reputation. I've found a few things, but their NALP SA--->Offer ratio gave me pause. Apparently only 9 out 22 SAs were given offers in 2012. Are these numbers accurate or is there some explanation for this?

Thanks for the help.

I have no specific knowledge about NM, but bear in mind that many southern firms do not care about maintaining a 100% offer rate. That may help explain their numbers

Anonymous User wrote:Curious about Nelson Mullins reputation. I've found a few things, but their NALP SA--->Offer ratio gave me pause. Apparently only 9 out 22 SAs were given offers in 2012. Are these numbers accurate or is there some explanation for this?

Thanks for the help.

I will be starting there in the fall, FWIW.

A few things to consider. Nelson requires a lot of 2Ls to take a split summer (I summered as a 1L and was told I had to split as a 2L) if you summered there before. Not every office offers, either. They have a number of smaller satellite offices that may not offer at all even if they are having one or more summers.

Hope that clears it up a bit.

Prior NM SA here... Nelson Mullins does not have a 100% offer rate--i.e., if you want an offer, you'll have to earn it throughout the summer. This creates a relatively competitive environment and I personally did not like it. More so, some groups (e.g., corporate in certain offices) may hire an associate every blue moon and NM will not tell you in advance--so you select this group to work in during the summer and then gradually realize that they never hire only when it's too late... My advice is to be very cautious of the practice groups you choose because that will have a large impact on whether you get an offer or not. The groups with highest offer rates are clearly business litigation followed by their products liability team (Columbia, SC office). All in all, good firm with good people but definitely a southern firm--i.e., "good ol' boy" environment at times. 1900 billables requirement but bonus scale is based on hours past that. Starting salaries all over the board depending on the office but still nowhere near BigLaw. They call them Nelson Motors for a reason... you're ultimately going to bill nearly BigLaw hours and not reap the salary reward...

Anonymous User wrote:Prior NM SA here... Nelson Mullins does not have a 100% offer rate--i.e., if you want an offer, you'll have to earn it throughout the summer. This creates a relatively competitive environment and I personally did not like it. More so, some groups (e.g., corporate in certain offices) may hire an associate every blue moon and NM will not tell you in advance--so you select this group to work in during the summer and then gradually realize that they never hire only when it's too late... My advice is to be very cautious of the practice groups you choose because that will have a large impact on whether you get an offer or not. The groups with highest offer rates are clearly business litigation followed by their products liability team (Columbia, SC office). All in all, good firm with good people but definitely a southern firm--i.e., "good ol' boy" environment at times. 1900 billables requirement but bonus scale is based on hours past that. Starting salaries all over the board depending on the office but still nowhere near BigLaw. They call them Nelson Motors for a reason... you're ultimately going to bill nearly BigLaw hours and not reap the salary reward...

I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say that it's not big law money. They pay six figures in tertiary markets (SC). It adjusts to more than 160k in NY on the cost of living index. Outside of Charlotte and ATL, this is consistent with big law in the South. (Nashville market pay is 110k, for instance.) The pay actually adjusts to higher than NYC rates...

(you also seem to be suggesting that NM isn't big law , which is odd in that they have something like 500 attorneys)

Nelson Mullins is a pretty terrible place from what I hear. In addition to billing hours , you have to do your own collections, which is fucked up. If a client doesn't pay you can't bill those hours. Work somewhere else if you can

Sorry, thought this was a thread about Ninny Muffins.

Anonymous User wrote:Prior NM SA here... Nelson Mullins does not have a 100% offer rate--i.e., if you want an offer, you'll have to earn it throughout the summer. This creates a relatively competitive environment and I personally did not like it. More so, some groups (e.g., corporate in certain offices) may hire an associate every blue moon and NM will not tell you in advance--so you select this group to work in during the summer and then gradually realize that they never hire only when it's too late... My advice is to be very cautious of the practice groups you choose because that will have a large impact on whether you get an offer or not. The groups with highest offer rates are clearly business litigation followed by their products liability team (Columbia, SC office). All in all, good firm with good people but definitely a southern firm--i.e., "good ol' boy" environment at times. 1900 billables requirement but bonus scale is based on hours past that. Starting salaries all over the board depending on the office but still nowhere near BigLaw. They call them Nelson Motors for a reason... you're ultimately going to bill nearly BigLaw hours and not reap the salary reward...

This is a bit much of bullshit right here (sounds like an angry guy who didn't get an offer).

The firm pays market in each of the markets it's in.