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What are my chances?

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:09 pm
by BrooklynLaw16
OCI is coming up, and I have 16 interviews lined up with mid-size and large firms. This strikes me as a large number of interviews, but I'm nervous as hell that none of them will turn into an offer for a 2L summer associate job. Has anyone ever heard of someone with around this many interviews who didn't get any offers?

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:10 pm
by Mal Reynolds
You have a 35% chance of getting a job and 65% chance of striking out.

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:24 pm
by Mredav44
Mal Reynolds wrote:You have a 35% chance of getting a job and 65% chance of striking out.
Lol just curious where you pulled these numbers from...

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:24 pm
by Mal Reynolds
Mredav44 wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:You have a 35% chance of getting a job and 65% chance of striking out.
Lol just curious where you pulled these numbers from...
Since the OP didn't say his school, grades, work experience, personality or desired market I pulled them out of the clear blue sky. And even if he had, lol at it being that easy to determine these things.

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:27 pm
by Mredav44
Mal Reynolds wrote:
Mredav44 wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:You have a 35% chance of getting a job and 65% chance of striking out.
Lol just curious where you pulled these numbers from...
Since the OP didn't say his school, grades, work experience, personality or desired market I pulled them out of the clear blue sky. And even if he had, lol at it being that easy to determine these things.
+1

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:58 pm
by BrooklynLaw16
Yeah, obviously it can't be determined in the abstract. I'm asking for anecdotes, like do you guys know anyone/ know of anyone who had around 16 interviews and did not get an offer?

I'm trying to gauge the average success rate to determine how much effort I need to put into applying through other avenues. Thank you.

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:00 pm
by Mal Reynolds
Are there people who strike out? Yes. All the time.

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:01 pm
by Mal Reynolds
If you go to brooklyn law school then I would be really surprised if you ended up at a firm.

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:17 pm
by WHJTMG178
This is not a lot of screeners. Assuming you go to Brooklyn, you shouldn't feel secure unless you are a top 10 overall student, and even then you better interview well. Hopefully you've already mass mailed every firm in NY and NJ.

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:45 pm
by shock259
Why does it matter what your chances are? Go into each interview and do your absolute best.

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:16 pm
by JamMasterJ
shock259 wrote:Why does it matter what your chances are? Go into each interview and do your absolute best.
I really like you as a poster, but I kinda hate when people post stuff like this. Some people are a little neurotic and hone in on some random thing. If getting some totally speculative opinions helps ease their mind (regardless of whether those people say 10% or 90%), then let em cook.

But yeah, OP, even if we did know your grades and stuff, we couldn't give great odds. To the tiny extent that that is even possible, it would really only be remotely accurate at top schools, which have a big enough sample size to make a semi-educated guess, and the TTTT schools where unless you're top 5, we can accurately predict your chances as 0%

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:19 pm
by baal hadad
16 is nothing

stop asking about what your chances are and go get more interviews

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:27 pm
by Anonymous User
BrooklynLaw16 wrote:Yeah, obviously it can't be determined in the abstract. I'm asking for anecdotes, like do you guys know anyone/ know of anyone who had around 16 interviews and did not get an offer?

I'm trying to gauge the average success rate to determine how much effort I need to put into applying through other avenues. Thank you.
Yes, I have a friend at Penn that did well over 40 screeners and had 0 offers, another friend at Michigan with 22 screeners and 0 offers... whereas a friend from Hastings had 4 screeners and 3 offers.

Predicting OCI offers is not like law school admissions.

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:32 pm
by Anonymous User
I struck out last year with around fifty.

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:20 pm
by BrooklynLaw16
Affirmative, top 12% at Brooklyn

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:42 am
by BrooklynLaw16
Update- increased to 23 screening interviews in total. Zero callbacks so far. I sware I'm not socially retarded and my grades were good enough, otherwise they wouldn't have met with me in the first place. Any further advice would be appreciated.

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:50 am
by wert3813
BrooklynLaw16 wrote:Update- increased to 23 screening interviews in total. Zero callbacks so far. I sware I'm not socially retarded and my grades were good enough, otherwise they wouldn't have met with me in the first place. Any further advice would be appreciated.
Mass mail every firm in NYC, your home market, NJ, CT, and everywhere else yesterday. Do it now.

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:28 am
by WHJTMG178
BrooklynLaw16 wrote:Update- increased to 23 screening interviews in total. Zero callbacks so far. I sware I'm not socially retarded and my grades were good enough, otherwise they wouldn't have met with me in the first place. Any further advice would be appreciated.

They also may have met with you because they needed to fill spots. You need to hope you get some mass mail responses, but in the meantime do a mock interview with someone who would be honest with you. Do you have any friends or family that are attorneys? Maybe they can help you. You go to a T2, you might be doing everything right, but it still may not get you to big law.

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:14 am
by Mal Reynolds
BrooklynLaw16 wrote: I sware I'm not socially retarded and my grades were good enough, otherwise they wouldn't have met with me in the first place.
This isn't true. They might just want to interview with the number one and two student, but need to keep a relationship with the school to do so. So they might agree to interview with more people than they are willing to hire.

Re: What are my chances?

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:27 am
by Old Gregg
BrooklynLaw16 wrote:Update- increased to 23 screening interviews in total. Zero callbacks so far. I sware I'm not socially retarded and my grades were good enough, otherwise they wouldn't have met with me in the first place. Any further advice would be appreciated.
Can't really trust your judgment when the your first post ITT didn't have any relevant information for us to be able to determine your chances.