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As someone who's targeting Boston and NYC at OCI, I'd like more insight into the differences between working in the two cities. Having lived in both, I know about the cultural differences of the two cities but am more so looking at how firm culture/type of work seems to differ between the two locals. TYIA.

Interested as well

The Ropes & Gray's of Boston are identical to their NYC sweatshop counterparts. Aside from the obvious comparison that New York is the hotter, sluttier sister of the two... Do you have any firms you're specifically looking to compare?

Anonymous User wrote:The Ropes & Gray's of Boston are identical to their NYC sweatshop counterparts. Aside from the obvious comparison that New York is the hotter, sluttier sister of the two... Do you have any firms you're specifically looking to compare?

What Boston offices can you comment on?

Not OP, but I'd be interested in hearing about any Boston office you have info on. Ropes, Wilmer, Goodwin, Nutter, Latham, Weil, Proskauer, Skadden, Fish, Sullivan & Worchester, Gunderson, Greenburg, etc. What do you know?

Boston firms seem to really value science backgrounds. Probably because there is a huge biotech industry here.

BUMP.

Namely, thoughts on:

- Ropes
- Wilmer
- Goodwin
- Holland & Knight
- foley hoag.
- Choate

??

Bump, because I want to know what places have the best reputation for litigation boutiques.

Boston is a much smaller market, though with a lot of IP/patent law. More opportunities generally in NYC.

- Ropes: top corporate practice in Boston; great PE, technology, life sciences, and IP practices; quality of corporate work comparable to NYC V10
- Wilmer: great litigation practice; weaker corporate practice
- Goodwin: great corporate practice; especially in technology and emerging companies; can be compared to Wilson Sonsini on the West Coast
- Holland & Knight: not sure
- foley hoag: not sure
- Choate: not sure

Anonymous User wrote:- Ropes: top corporate practice in Boston; great PE, technology, life sciences, and IP practices; quality of corporate work comparable to NYC V10
- Wilmer: great litigation practice; weaker corporate practice
- Goodwin: great corporate practice; especially in technology and emerging companies; can be compared to Wilson Sonsini on the West Coast
- Holland & Knight: not sure
- Foley Hoag: not sure
- Choate: not sure

Sooo you conveniently know very vague info on the big three yet nothing about other reputable firms in the city? Methinks you know nothing.

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Anonymous User wrote:- Ropes: top corporate practice in Boston; great PE, technology, life sciences, and IP practices; quality of corporate work comparable to NYC V10
- Wilmer: great litigation practice; weaker corporate practice
- Goodwin: great corporate practice; especially in technology and emerging companies; can be compared to Wilson Sonsini on the West Coast
- Holland & Knight: not sure
- Foley Hoag: not sure
- Choate: not sure

Sooo you conveniently know very vague info on the big three yet nothing about other reputable firms in the city? Methinks you know nothing.

I know as much about the big three as anyone who has not worked there. Did initial and callbacks with big three (only bid these). Seriously considered these, but ended up choosing NYC V5.

Anonymous User wrote:BUMP.

Namely, thoughts on:

- Ropes
- Wilmer
- Goodwin
- Holland & Knight
- Foley Hoag.
- Choate

??

-Ropes - transactional IP is best but obvi still good at lit
-Wilmer - lit powerhouse
-Goodwin - emerging technologies and real estate practice groups are well known, good tax dept, pretty well rounded
-Choate - strong private equity group, govt enforcement (lit) group and IP, also a really strong Wealth Mgmt practice group (bought out wilmer's a few yrs ago) and wealth mgmt groups are rare these days
-h&k - honestly dont know but i know they have a weird "syndicate" group that does some weird tax stuff but they are one of the only firms around who do it so they get a lot of business
-foley - i just know people seem happy here

Anyone know Fish & Richardson's rep in the Boston area? (Yes, I know they are IP-only).

NYC has more flexibility to lateral to other markets.

CicerBRo wrote:NYC has more flexibility to lateral to other markets.

True. But I'm wondering, how hard would it be to lateral to NYC or DC coming from a Boston firm at the Ropes/Wilmer lever, if one wanted to do so?

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CicerBRo wrote:NYC has more flexibility to lateral to other markets.

True. But I'm wondering, how hard would it be to lateral to NYC or DC coming from a Boston firm at the Ropes/Wilmer lever, if one wanted to do so?

Ropes has offices in both cities and the NYC office is almost 300 people. If you wanted to go there, wouldn't just put in a transfer?

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

CicerBRo wrote:NYC has more flexibility to lateral to other markets.

True. But I'm wondering, how hard would it be to lateral to NYC or DC coming from a Boston firm at the Ropes/Wilmer lever, if one wanted to do so?

Ropes has offices in both cities and the NYC office is almost 300 people. If you wanted to go there, wouldn't just put in a transfer?

I thought going to a different firm was implicit in the term "lateral." So for the purposes of the question, consider, for example, someone who was moving to either of those cities to switch to a smaller firm, or to a firm that does a type of work Ropes/Wilmer doesn't do in any city, or maybe (not endorsing this at all, but still) move to a firm that's more highly ranked than Ropes/Wilmer in that city, i.e. Davis Polk in NY, or Arnold & Porter in DC. Does anyone have a sense of how easy/difficult that might be coming from Boston?

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

CicerBRo wrote:NYC has more flexibility to lateral to other markets.

True. But I'm wondering, how hard would it be to lateral to NYC or DC coming from a Boston firm at the Ropes/Wilmer lever, if one wanted to do so?

Ropes has offices in both cities and the NYC office is almost 300 people. If you wanted to go there, wouldn't just put in a transfer?

I thought going to a different firm was implicit in the term "lateral." So for the purposes of the question, consider, for example, someone who was moving to either of those cities to switch to a smaller firm, or to a firm that does a type of work Ropes/Wilmer doesn't do in any city, or maybe (not endorsing this at all, but still) move to a firm that's more highly ranked than Ropes/Wilmer in that city, i.e. Davis Polk in NY, or Arnold & Porter in DC. Does anyone have a sense of how easy/difficult that might be coming from Boston?

True, I guess what I was thinking was worst case scenario, you transfer to NYC and then lateral.

BUMP.

People are generally happy in Boston. It's supposed to be the best semi-major market for QoL.

Anyone have any luck securing any Boston offers pre-OCI/IEP?

Just outside of top 1/3 at GULC; got dinged by Nutter yesterday. Silence otherwise from mailing.

Anonymous User wrote:Just outside of top 1/3 at GULC; got dinged by Nutter yesterday. Silence otherwise from mailing.

sorry to hear that. had you had an interview/callback, or just mass-mailed?

What firms are considered mid-level in Boston?

Anonymous User wrote:What firms are considered mid-level in Boston?

Sherin & Lodgin and Riemer Braunstein come to mind, unsure of others.

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Anonymous User wrote:What firms are considered mid-level in Boston?

Sherin & Lodgin and Riemer Braunstein come to mind, unsure of others.

Just want to note that Riemer does not abide by NALP (sometimes give you only a few days to accept/reject your offer) or pay market ($120). In addition, up until last year, frequently no-offered summers for fit reasons.

twocabins3112 wrote:BUMP.

People are generally happy in Boston. It's supposed to be the best semi-major market for QoL.

Anyone have any luck securing any Boston offers pre-OCI/IEP?

I've gotten flat out rejected from a few places, and am still waiting to hear from the rest. Top 10 school with top 3rd grades and good ties.