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ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:02 pm
by baal hadad
Work in a lit boutique for Mostly corporate clients

Customer claims usually go to mediation and binding arb

Regulatory stuff usually goes to consent/settlement or to regulatory forum

Almost 9 months barred now

Been to court merely one time other than to observe

Appeared for to defend and successfully mediated a small claims matter

But I went alone w no supervision so that was cool

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:18 pm
by yomisterd
Congrats on the success. I have heard like 90% of litigation settles before court.

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:05 pm
by Tanicius
I think some forms of arbitration would actually be quite refreshing because you get to skip a ton of the procedural bullshit in court. I think it'd be unfair for a lot of personal injury/wrongful death stuff, but fantastic when litigating corporate suits between two companies.

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:06 pm
by baal hadad
yomisterd wrote:Congrats on the success. I have heard like 90% of litigation settles before court.
Those few things that have happened is apt from the vast majority of things that settlr

Also it's hardly my succes

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:08 pm
by baal hadad
Tanicius wrote:I think some forms of arbitration would actually be quite refreshing because you get to skip a ton of the procedural bullshit in court. I think it'd be unfair for a lot of personal injury/wrongful death stuff, but fantastic when litigating corporate suits between two companies.
I actually haven't even got the opportunity to watch one yet

It's certainly business friendly tho

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:13 pm
by bdubs
Also work at a lit boutique. Trial is indeed rare but "going to court" does happen for motion and status hearings.

Most cases are won or lost in motion practice anyway.

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:17 pm
by baal hadad
bdubs wrote:Also work at a lit boutique. Trial is indeed rare but "going to court" does happen for motion and status hearings.

Most cases are won or lost in motion practice anyway.
The partners go occasionally

I don't

Fed ct doesn't want hearings all the time

State ct sometimes I suppose

I went to state court once

We were in a fire drill situation, couldn't get a courier, and I recorded some property

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:44 pm
by ResIpsa21
Do you write

All of your motions

Like this too?

If so, it doesn't really surprise me

That you haven't gone to court much

Not to say any litigators really do go to court

Just that I've never seen anyone post like this before

And it's weird

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:51 pm
by baal hadad
ResIpsa21 wrote:Do you write

All of your motions

Like this too?

If so, it doesn't really surprise me

That you haven't gone to court much

Not to say any litigators really do go to court

Just that I've never seen anyone post like this before

And it's weird
COMES NOW Baal hadad, by and through the undersigned counsel and pursuant to fla r civ p 56, and moves this court to grant summary judgment in favor of Baal hadad (herinafter "BH" or "plaintiff") and as grounds therefore states:

1) I'm not the first to poast like this

2) u need to read TLS more often

3) honestly some state court stuff I've seen is closer to this style than not

Respectfully,
Baal hadad

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:01 pm
by mw115
baal hadad wrote: 3) honestly some state court stuff I've seen is closer to this style than not
more coherent for sure, even in comparison to federal court.

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:30 am
by dixiecupdrinking
I was told by a partner not to write any paragraphs that are more than three sentences. Seemed a little extreme but he's the successful one.

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:39 am
by 09042014
I went to court once. Totally won my motion to change venue (in an immigration matter where the guy moved). As you can tell, I'm a big deal.

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:40 am
by baal hadad
Desert Fox wrote:I went to court once. Totally won my motion to change venue (in an immigration matter where the guy moved). As you can tell, I'm a big deal.
Client bill - $600+

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:41 am
by 09042014
baal hadad wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I went to court once. Totally won my motion to change venue (in an immigration matter where the guy moved). As you can tell, I'm a big deal.
Client bill - $600+
pro bono, nobody would pay for me to go do anything

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:42 am
by baal hadad
dixiecupdrinking wrote:I was told by a partner not to write any paragraphs that are more than three sentences. Seemed a little extreme but he's the successful one.
Judging from my experiences so far I don't think that's too crazy

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:42 am
by baal hadad
Desert Fox wrote:
baal hadad wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I went to court once. Totally won my motion to change venue (in an immigration matter where the guy moved). As you can tell, I'm a big deal.
Client bill - $600+
pro bono, nobody would pay for me to go do anything
I know that feel

Often clients won't pay me to do anything

It is what it is

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:42 am
by SLS_AMG
ResIpsa21 wrote:Do you write

All of your motions

Like this too?

If so, it doesn't really surprise me

That you haven't gone to court much

Not to say any litigators really do go to court

Just that I've never seen anyone post like this before

And it's weird
+1

I guess his court filings are quadruple spaced.

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:48 am
by baal hadad
SLS_AMG wrote:
ResIpsa21 wrote:Do you write

All of your motions

Like this too?

If so, it doesn't really surprise me

That you haven't gone to court much

Not to say any litigators really do go to court

Just that I've never seen anyone post like this before

And it's weird
+1

I guess his court filings are quadruple spaced.
Do u even paeg limit bro

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:02 pm
by smallfirmassociate
dixiecupdrinking wrote:I was told by a partner not to write any paragraphs that are more than three sentences. Seemed a little extreme but he's the successful one.
I might say 4-5 sentences, but that's not really bad advice. Judges are old, tired, bored, and probably have to squint to read half the time. If you write 10-sentence paragraphs, they'll fall asleep.

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:09 pm
by NotMyRealName09
baal hadad wrote:Work in a lit boutique for Mostly corporate clients

Customer claims usually go to mediation and binding arb

Regulatory stuff usually goes to consent/settlement or to regulatory forum

Almost 9 months barred now

Been to court merely one time other than to observe

Appeared for to defend and successfully mediated a small claims matter

But I went alone w no supervision so that was cool
Some go to court. A lot just depends on the nature of the cases and the clients you have. Personal random pet peve - settling clearly bullshit cases that have no merit because cost of defending is more than throwing dollars at plaintiff. Hate that shit. Client once had tiny small claim filed against them for breach of warranty (small size was out of ordinary for that client but wanted us to handle) - claim was actually barred by prior class action settlement that directly covered the claim (plaintiff never filed a claim, lost his right to sue). Didn't matter. To establish that would have cost thousands of dollars in motion practice, when it was easier to just pay the douchebag.

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:24 pm
by sundance95
baal hadad wrote: COMES NOW Baal hadad, by and through the undersigned counsel and pursuant to fla r civ p 56, and moves this court to grant summary judgment in favor of Baal hadad (herinafter "BH" or "plaintiff") and as grounds therefore states:

1) I'm not the first to poast like this
GRANTED
can confirm
baal hadad wrote: 3) honestly some state court stuff I've seen is closer to this style than not
GRANTED
definitely can confirm
baal hadad wrote: 2) u need to read TLS more often
DENIED
Material issue, court doubts anyone should read TLS more often

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:26 pm
by sundance95
smallfirmassociate wrote:
dixiecupdrinking wrote:I was told by a partner not to write any paragraphs that are more than three sentences. Seemed a little extreme but he's the successful one.
I might say 4-5 sentences, but that's not really bad advice. Judges are old, tired, bored, and probably have to squint to read half the time. If you write 10-sentence paragraphs, they'll fall asleep.
re bolded: this is definitely true, so why does everyone blindly use Times New Roman 12 pt. it's an objectively shitacular font

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:28 pm
by patogordo
judges read briefs?

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:28 pm
by DELG
bankruptcy lawyers go to court all the time

Re: ITT litigators dispel the myth that we go to court

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:30 pm
by smallfirmassociate
sundance95 wrote:
smallfirmassociate wrote:
dixiecupdrinking wrote:I was told by a partner not to write any paragraphs that are more than three sentences. Seemed a little extreme but he's the successful one.
I might say 4-5 sentences, but that's not really bad advice. Judges are old, tired, bored, and probably have to squint to read half the time. If you write 10-sentence paragraphs, they'll fall asleep.
re bolded: this is definitely true, so why does everyone blindly use Times New Roman 12 pt. it's an objectively shitacular font
Also true. I use Wing Dings, that way I know if the judge actually even tries to read it.