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Hi. I was recently accepted at NYU/CLS. I Am primarily interested in Corporate/Transactional, not very much into Litigation. My previous School was T2; Top 5%.

Every firm on my list has offered transfers in 2011/2012/2013 at my school, but other than that I do not know how my status as a transfer may affect.

Edit: 7/21/2014

updated bidlist incorporating some TLS and career services recommendations. thanks everyone for your help

1. proskauer rose llp (New York, NY)
2. Shearman & Sterling LLP (New York, NY)
3. Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher, & Flom (New York, NY)
4. paul hastings llp (New York, NY)
5. Debevoise & Plimpton LLP (New York, NY)
6. Kaye Scholer LLP (New York, NY)
7. White & Case LLP (New York, NY)
8. Weil Gotshal & Manges LLP (New York, NY)
9. clifford chance US LLP (New York, NY)
10. Milbank Tweed Hadley & McCloy LLP (New York, NY)
11. Sullivan & Cromwell LLP (New York, NY)
12. Ropes & Gray (New York, NY)
13. Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP (New York, NY)
14. Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP (New York, NY)
15. Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton (New York, NY)
16. Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP (New York, NY)
17. Covington & Burling (New York, NY)
18. Fried Frank Harris Shriver & Jacobson LLP (New York, NY)
19. Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP (New York, NY)
20. Cadwalader Wickersham & Taft LLP (New York, NY)
21. Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP (New York, NY)
22. O'Melveny & Myers LLP (New York, NY)
23. Hunton & Williams LLP (New York, NY)
24. Dechert (New York, NY)
25. Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP (New York, NY)
26. Bryan Cave LLP (New York, NY)
27. Simpson Thacher & bartlett llp (New York, NY)
28. Carter Ledyard & Milburn LLP (New York, NY)
29. Kelley Drye & Warren LLP (New York, NY)
30. Perkins Coie (New York, NY)

Original list:

1. Proskauer Rose LLP (New York, NY)
2. Shearman & Sterling LLP (New York, NY)
3. Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher, & Flom (New York, NY)
4. Debevoise & Plimpton LLP (New York, NY)
5. Paul Hastings LLP (New York, NY)
6. Kaye Scholer LLP (New York, NY)
7. Weil Gotshal & Manges LLP (New York, NY)
8. White & Case LLP (New York, NY)
9. Latham & Watkins LLP (New York, NY)
10. Clifford Chance US LLP (New York, NY)
11. Milbank Tweed Hadley & McCloy LLP (New York, NY)
12. Sullivan & Cromwell LLP (New York, NY)
13. Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP (New York, NY)
14. Ropes & Gray (New York, NY)
15. Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP (New York, NY)
16. Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP (New York, NY)
17. Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton (New York, NY)
18. Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP (New York, NY)
19. Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP (New York, NY)
20. Cadwalader Wickersham & Taft LLP (New York, NY)
21. Fried Frank Harris Shriver & Jacobson LLP (New York, NY)
22. Covington & Burling (New York, NY)
23. Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP (New York, NY)
24. Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP (New York, NY)
25. O'Melveny & Myers LLP (New York, NY)
26. Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP (New York, NY)
27. Bryan Cave
28. Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz (New York, NY)
29. Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP (New York, NY)
30. Kelley Drye & Warren LLP (New York, NY)

why proskauer is so popular?

3. Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher, & Flom (New York, NY)
4. Debevoise & Plimpton LLP (New York, NY)

12. Sullivan & Cromwell LLP (New York, NY)

16. Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP (New York, NY)
17. Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton (New York, NY)

19. Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP (New York, NY)

22. Covington & Burling (New York, NY)

24. Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP (New York, NY)

28. Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz (New York, NY)
29. Simpson Thacher & bartlett llp (New York, NY)

...should probably all come off. This is baseless but I'd be shocked if those firms would take 5% from a T2

Thank you JamMaster. my previous school only provides 5% increments. i received all As so i am at least tied for top, but as i said, due to the way my school ranked previously, there is no way to put it on my resume because it wouldn't be ethical

Anonymous User wrote:Thank you JamMaster. my previous school only provides 5% increments. i received all As so i am at least tied for top, but as i said, due to the way my school ranked previously, there is no way to put it on my resume because it wouldn't be ethical

List your GPA as 4.0/4.0 if your school didn't give A+s.

Anonymous User wrote:Thank you JamMaster. my previous school only provides 5% increments. i received all As so i am at least tied for top, but as i said, due to the way my school ranked previously, there is no way to put it on my resume because it wouldn't be ethical

Oh OK, then you're probably more competitive than that. I don't know which are foreclosed but I have a feeling that Wachtell and Cov at least will still be problematic. I know Wachtell only hires from certain schools and I'm not sure what they think of people who transferred into, but not from, a school like that. TBF they're low enough that it's no big deal

flawschoolkid wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Thank you JamMaster. my previous school only provides 5% increments. i received all As so i am at least tied for top, but as i said, due to the way my school ranked previously, there is no way to put it on my resume because it wouldn't be ethical

List your GPA as 4.0/4.0 if your school didn't give A+s.

career services (at new school) said that that wouldn't be necessary because all screeners request our transcript at the interview. i originally had that on there and said said remove it. i did put my gpa on the resumes for my mass mailings and resume collection

any others with thoughts? thanks!

Anonymous User wrote:Hi. I was recently accepted at NYU/CLS. I Am primarily interested in Corporate/Transactional, not very much into Litigation. My previous School was T2; Top 5%.

Every firm on my list has offered transfers in <a href="tel:2011/2012/2013">2011/2012/2013</a> at my school, but other than that I do not know how my status as a transfer may affect.

1. Proskauer Rose LLP (New York, NY)
2. Shearman & Sterling LLP (New York, NY)
3. Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher, & Flom (New York, NY)
4. Debevoise & Plimpton LLP (New York, NY)
5. Paul Hastings LLP (New York, NY)
6. Kaye Scholer LLP (New York, NY)
7. Weil Gotshal & Manges LLP (New York, NY)
8. White & Case LLP (New York, NY)
9. Latham & Watkins LLP (New York, NY)
10. Clifford Chance US LLP (New York, NY)
11. Milbank Tweed Hadley & McCloy LLP (New York, NY)
12. Sullivan & Cromwell LLP (New York, NY)
13. Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP (New York, NY)
14. Ropes & Gray (New York, NY)
15. Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP (New York, NY)
16. Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP (New York, NY)
17. Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton (New York, NY)
18. Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP (New York, NY)
19. Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP (New York, NY)
20. Cadwalader Wickersham & Taft LLP (New York, NY)
21. Fried Frank Harris Shriver & Jacobson LLP (New York, NY)
22. Covington & Burling (New York, NY)
23. Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP (New York, NY)
24. Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP (New York, NY)
25. O'Melveny & Myers LLP (New York, NY)
26. Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP (New York, NY)
27. Bryan Cave
28. Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz (New York, NY)
29. Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP (New York, NY)
30. Kelley Drye & Warren LLP (New York, NY)

Wachtell recruits at 8 schools (YHSCCNPB), so I seriously doubt they hired people from your T2 the last three years. Wachtell should come off because it's a wasted bid.

Accidental anon - sls

Edit: misread your OP. I see you're saying they hired transfers at your CLS/NYU school. That might be true, but Wachtell expects top grades even from the schools it recruits at, let alone from the lower-ranked transfer school. Feel free to bid on them (and Covington), but I have a feeling the transfer offers probably came from people at much higher-ranked 1L schools.

Do you have any pre-OCI offers? If so, you can stand to be a bit more aggressive. If not - and while I understand the importance of prestige chasing - getting a job is priority #1. I'd probably take off Wachtell, S&C, Covington, and maybe Cravath. I think all of the others are within reach. Those just seem like 4 wasted bids/interviews to me.

Anonymous User wrote:

flawschoolkid wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Thank you JamMaster. my previous school only provides 5% increments. i received all As so i am at least tied for top, but as i said, due to the way my school ranked previously, there is no way to put it on my resume because it wouldn't be ethical

List your GPA as 4.0/4.0 if your school didn't give A+s.

career services (at new school) said that that wouldn't be necessary because all screeners request our transcript at the interview. i originally had that on there and said said remove it. i did put my gpa on the resumes for my mass mailings and resume collection

Unless your career services explicitly forbids it, put the 4.0/4.0 back on your resume.

(big law interviewer)

If firms just look at 1L grades and prior school rank, would a transfer bid list look any different at YHS v. CCN ?

Edit: assuming you are targeting NY big law

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

flawschoolkid wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Thank you JamMaster. my previous school only provides 5% increments. i received all As so i am at least tied for top, but as i said, due to the way my school ranked previously, there is no way to put it on my resume because it wouldn't be ethical

List your GPA as 4.0/4.0 if your school didn't give A+s.

career services (at new school) said that that wouldn't be necessary because all screeners request our transcript at the interview. i originally had that on there and said said remove it. i did put my gpa on the resumes for my mass mailings and resume collection

Unless your career services explicitly forbids it, put the 4.0/4.0 back on your resume.

(big law interviewer)

i have another meeting with career services soon. i will ask if it would be okay or if it is explicitly forbidden. do you know if, when going through the process of deciding who to call back, the resume pile is the only piece of information used to determine (outside of things like if the interviewer remembers and enjoyed the interview with the student) or will it be resume/transcript/[any other thing requested for the initial interview]?

Columbia bans rising 2Ls from having a GPA on their resume. If they allow transfers to list a GPA, that would shock me. When OCS gets back to you, please let us know what they say.

Assuming you have transferred to CLS and not NYU, congrats. Second of all, a lot of us rising 2Ls have had a lot of complaints about OCS so take what they say with a grain of salt. Best of luck with making your list!

You don't need to take off Cravath -- they'll take transfer students at CLS/NYU.

You should absolutely list your old GPA if career services will let you and if they don't, negotiate a workaround ("tied for highest GPA in class" or something like that).

S&C is very, very likely interested in a transfer with near-perfect grades at the old T2.

With perfect grades at a T2, I think you'd have a shot at every firm besides WLRK. Even the most grade-selective firms regularly take kids like that.

Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:With perfect grades at a T2, I think you'd have a shot at every firm besides WLRK. Even the most grade-selective firms regularly take kids like that.

i admittedly put wachtell on because it was near the end of my list and I thought it would at least be a cool experience. career services i think has been very helpful. compared to my old school and GULC (i also got in there and met with their career services)

since im anonymous i guess i can say that i am at cls

Did you use all of the OCS info to come up with your list? I don't have the same info you do, but a couple of your bids seem oddly placed. Skadden is probably not bid very high by other students, so why use a #4 bid on that? And some of the firms that are less grade-sensitive are too low for you to get interviews. Stroock, Pillsbury, and the like down there in the 20s may be wasted because those interview slots are probably 3x over-enrolled (so you'll have to bid them much lower if you want a chance).

The basic idea shouldn't be to rank the firms in the order of how much you want to work for them. Your goal should be to maximize the number of interviews. The most heavily bid firms should be ranked first, the lighter bid firms should be last. Often, the lighter bid firms are the most grade-selective (because few students have the grades necessary and just don't bid on them). So throw them in at the end. I think I had Cravath near the bottom of my list 2 years ago and I still got an interview with them.

Otherwise, it looks pretty much on track! Good luck!

thank you shock. i used the first failed bid info to choose how to place. none of my bids are higher than last year's first failed bid. majority of my bids are at least 2 slots higher. ie. if a firm had a first failed bid of 21 then I put them at 18 or 19. do you recommend another strategy?

thank you all for your helpful comments

Do not take S&C off your list. They frequently take the top few kids at lower ranked schools.

Anonymous User wrote:thank you shock. i used the first failed bid info to choose how to place. none of my bids are higher than last year's first failed bid. majority of my bids are at least 2 slots higher. ie. if a firm had a first failed bid of 21 then I put them at 18 or 19. do you recommend another strategy?

thank you all for your helpful comments

Oh perfect! Sounds like you did it right to me!

i am thinking of contacting an attorney at a firm I am interested in preoci, they are an alum from my 1L, would that be kosher?

Anonymous User wrote:i am thinking of contacting an attorney at a firm I am interested in preoci, they are an alum from my 1L, would that be kosher?

I'd say contact recruiting directly. What are you going to say to the alum from your 1L?

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:i am thinking of contacting an attorney at a firm I am interested in preoci, they are an alum from my 1L, would that be kosher?

I'd say contact recruiting directly. What are you going to say to the alum from your 1L?

wanted to reach out in order to hopefully set up a meeting to discuss their practice area at the firm