O-C-LIE: If aren't lying you don't want it hard enough Forum

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:00 pm

ABC

A Always B Be C Calumniating

FSK · Post by **FSK** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:07 pm

Sounds like you have strong family ties in all 50 states.

ymmv · Post by **ymmv** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:10 pm

Which is the most convincing lie in response to "why law/litigation": (1) always wanted to be a lawyer, fascinated by legal problems, heroes all lawyers etc. or (2) researched career options throughout undergrad and decided law was best fit for strengths/interests, spent time working and speaking with lawyers to make sure or (3) these are both awful and I need to find a better excuse for choosing the de facto useless-lib-arts-degree career path.

bulinus · Post by **bulinus** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:11 pm

"Hobbies: Spelunking"

toothbrush · Post by **toothbrush** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:12 pm

ymmv wrote:Which is the most convincing lie in response to "why law/litigation": (1) always wanted to be a lawyer, fascinated by legal problems, heroes all lawyers etc. or (2) researched career options throughout undergrad and decided law was best fit for strengths/interests, spent time working and speaking with lawyers to make sure or (3) these are both awful and I need to find a better excuse for choosing the de facto useless-lib-arts-degree career path.

I usually say a variation of 1 + had X internship / opportunity that confirmed it.

jbiresq · Post by **jbiresq** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:24 pm

The imaginary girlfriend in medical school in LA got me quite a few callbacks there

Tanicius · Post by **Tanicius** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:29 pm

bulinus wrote:"Hobbies: Spelunking"

No no, YACHTING. Just know the verbiage and shit or you'll look like a fool when the partner asks you, "Awesome what's your favorite kind of boat?"

toothbrush · Post by **toothbrush** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:30 pm

Can I successfully say I'm lgb and t ? As in, all 4 ?

bulinus · Post by **bulinus** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:33 pm

toothbrush wrote:Can I successfully say I'm lgb and t ? As in, all 4 ?

It's LGBTQIA. /cis-outed

brotherdarkness · Post by **brotherdarkness** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:35 pm

Tanicius · Post by **Tanicius** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:37 pm

brotherdarkness wrote:
Tanicius wrote:
bulinus wrote:"Hobbies: Spelunking"
No no, YACHTING. Just know the verbiage and shit or you'll look like a fool when the partner asks you, "Awesome what's your favorite kind of boat?"
"It's not a boat, it's a yacht."

Exhibit A, see, you rising 2Ls? I would have just flunked an interview with Partner Brotherdarkness.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:38 pm

jbiresq wrote:The imaginary girlfriend in medical school in LA got me quite a few callbacks there

Did you seriously do this? If so, do they grill you on this?

I was thinking about doing this but not as blatant. I have a relative in market X who I don't really talk to. Was thinking about using that and saying we're close.... but I'm not even sure if she still lives there.

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:39 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
jbiresq wrote:The imaginary girlfriend in medical school in LA got me quite a few callbacks there
Did you seriously do this? If so, do they grill you on this?

I was thinking about doing this but not as blatant. I have a relative in market X who I don't really talk to. Was thinking about using that and saying we're close.... but I'm not even sure if she still lives there.

My aunt lives there is really shitty. If you are a guy, don't say GF, say fiance.

Tanicius · Post by **Tanicius** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:42 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
jbiresq wrote:The imaginary girlfriend in medical school in LA got me quite a few callbacks there
Did you seriously do this? If so, do they grill you on this?

I was thinking about doing this but not as blatant. I have a relative in market X who I don't really talk to. Was thinking about using that and saying we're close.... but I'm not even sure if she still lives there.
My aunt lives there is really shitty. If you are a guy, don't say GF, say fiance.

I know the chances of being caught for something like that are damn slim, but what happens if they Google you and find a cached Facebook profile or some shit that shows you're not in a relationship, or you are but they're attending college in NYC instead of LA?

I feel like lying to that degree could foreseeably get you into trouble. It borders on actual employment fraud because you're feeding them false information in order to convince them, in bad faith, that you're not a flight risk.

ymmv · Post by **ymmv** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:44 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
jbiresq wrote:The imaginary girlfriend in medical school in LA got me quite a few callbacks there
Did you seriously do this? If so, do they grill you on this?

I was thinking about doing this but not as blatant. I have a relative in market X who I don't really talk to. Was thinking about using that and saying we're close.... but I'm not even sure if she still lives there.
My aunt lives there is really shitty. If you are a guy, don't say GF, say fiance.

This seems like it could have serious post-hiring implications should you actually get the job. Pity straights don't have the option of just saying "partner" with all the implications of long-term commitment but without the impending marital status and conspicuous ring.

bulinus · Post by **bulinus** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:46 pm

Tanicius wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
jbiresq wrote:The imaginary girlfriend in medical school in LA got me quite a few callbacks there
Did you seriously do this? If so, do they grill you on this?

I was thinking about doing this but not as blatant. I have a relative in market X who I don't really talk to. Was thinking about using that and saying we're close.... but I'm not even sure if she still lives there.
My aunt lives there is really shitty. If you are a guy, don't say GF, say fiance.
I know the chances of being caught for something like that are damn slim, but what happens if they Google you and find a cached Facebook profile or some shit that shows you're not in a relationship, or you are but they're attending college in NYC instead of LA?

I feel like lying to that degree could foreseeably get you into trouble. It borders on actual employment fraud because you're feeding them false information in order to convince them, in bad faith, that you're not a flight risk.

Nah, bro. Being in a long distance with a resident working 85 hours a week is incredibly straining on a relationship. Could collapse at any moment. This plan is bulletproof.

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:48 pm

Tanicius wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
jbiresq wrote:The imaginary girlfriend in medical school in LA got me quite a few callbacks there
Did you seriously do this? If so, do they grill you on this?

I was thinking about doing this but not as blatant. I have a relative in market X who I don't really talk to. Was thinking about using that and saying we're close.... but I'm not even sure if she still lives there.
My aunt lives there is really shitty. If you are a guy, don't say GF, say fiance.
I know the chances of being caught for something like that are damn slim, but what happens if they Google you and find a cached Facebook profile or some shit that shows you're not in a relationship, or you are but they're attending college in NYC instead of LA?

I feel like lying to that degree could foreseeably get you into trouble. It borders on actual employment fraud because you're feeding them false information in order to convince them, in bad faith, that you're not a flight risk.

They'd rightfully fire you. Don't get caught.

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:50 pm

ymmv wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
jbiresq wrote:The imaginary girlfriend in medical school in LA got me quite a few callbacks there
Did you seriously do this? If so, do they grill you on this?

I was thinking about doing this but not as blatant. I have a relative in market X who I don't really talk to. Was thinking about using that and saying we're close.... but I'm not even sure if she still lives there.
My aunt lives there is really shitty. If you are a guy, don't say GF, say fiance.
This seems like it could have serious post-hiring implications should you actually get the job. Pity straights don't have the option of just saying "partner" with all the implications of long-term commitment but without the impending marital status and conspicuous ring.

"it didn't work out."

Nobody is going to ask a bunch of follow up questions.

jbiresq · Post by **jbiresq** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:00 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
jbiresq wrote:The imaginary girlfriend in medical school in LA got me quite a few callbacks there
Did you seriously do this? If so, do they grill you on this?

I was thinking about doing this but not as blatant. I have a relative in market X who I don't really talk to. Was thinking about using that and saying we're close.... but I'm not even sure if she still lives there.

What were they going to ask? How's your sex life? When are you getting married? Most just said "oh your resume is really X city focused but now it makes sense you'd want to go to LA." That was the end of it.

dixiecupdrinking · Post by **dixiecupdrinking** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:04 pm

ITT lawyers tell you "don't get caught"

ymmv · Post by **ymmv** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:07 pm

jbiresq wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
jbiresq wrote:The imaginary girlfriend in medical school in LA got me quite a few callbacks there
Did you seriously do this? If so, do they grill you on this?

I was thinking about doing this but not as blatant. I have a relative in market X who I don't really talk to. Was thinking about using that and saying we're close.... but I'm not even sure if she still lives there.
What were they going to ask? How's your sex life? When are you getting married? Most just said "oh your resume is really X city focused but now it makes sense you'd want to go to LA." That was the end of it.

And yet if you get the one personable interviewer who asks even one or two followup questions to that effect you might be fucked. Unless you go through all the work of creating an elaborate backstory to it all, which is not something I'd personally want to try to maintain over something as stressful as back-to-back interviews for two weeks.

IME it's much easier to exaggerate and distort truth than to invent lies from scratch. Especially in a high-pressure context.

bulinus · Post by **bulinus** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:11 pm

jbiresq wrote: What were they going to ask? How's your sex life? When are you getting married? Most just said "oh your resume is really X city focused but now it makes sense you'd want to go to LA." That was the end of it.

If it's V20, the hiring partner will ask to smell your finger at the CB.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:07 pm

This is true. i honestly don't think I got into undergrad or law school without lying/stretching the truth about something. it's almost a necessity if you're really just a normal person (ie the legal stereotype - white, middle class, male). nothing serious that i couldn't sleep at night though.

my entire undergrad personal statement was an anecdote about myself with an underlying event entirely made up, but that no one could possibly check. im sure the schools probably thought it wasn't entirely believable but didn't care honestly.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:33 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Tanicius wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:The imaginary girlfriend in medical school in LA got me quite a few callbacks there
Did you seriously do this? If so, do they grill you on this?

I was thinking about doing this but not as blatant. I have a relative in market X who I don't really talk to. Was thinking about using that and saying we're close.... but I'm not even sure if she still lives there.
My aunt lives there is really shitty. If you are a guy, don't say GF, say fiance.
I know the chances of being caught for something like that are damn slim, but what happens if they Google you and find a cached Facebook profile or some shit that shows you're not in a relationship, or you are but they're attending college in NYC instead of LA?

I feel like lying to that degree could foreseeably get you into trouble. It borders on actual employment fraud because you're feeding them false information in order to convince them, in bad faith, that you're not a flight risk.
They'd rightfully fire you. Don't get caught.

if female, alternative is to find a casual bf in city where you want to work and get them to back you up. make sure the guy has at least some job inmobility

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:35 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
if female, alternative is to find a casual bf in city where you want to work and get them to back you up. make sure the guy has at least some job inmobility

No, female moving for fiance = gonna make babies

Male moving for fiance = clean cut family man

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