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Re: The Super Rich
WSJ typo... what is this world coming down to??
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Re: The Super Rich
“ 'The Super Rich'—a group that includes white-shoe New York firms, super-profitable mega-boutiques and firms that have grown from regional roots to become leading national players" --> Which firms are what on this list?
Boies, Schiller & Flexner
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft
Cahill Gordon & Reindel
Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton
Cravath, Swaine & Moore
Davis Polk & Wardwell
Debevoise & Plimpton
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher
Kirkland & Ellis
Latham & Watkins
Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
Paul Hastings
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison
Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan
Schulte Roth & Zabel
Simpson Thacher & Bartlett
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom
Sullivan & Cromwell
Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz
Willkie Farr & Gallagher
Boies, Schiller & Flexner
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft
Cahill Gordon & Reindel
Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton
Cravath, Swaine & Moore
Davis Polk & Wardwell
Debevoise & Plimpton
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher
Kirkland & Ellis
Latham & Watkins
Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
Paul Hastings
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison
Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan
Schulte Roth & Zabel
Simpson Thacher & Bartlett
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom
Sullivan & Cromwell
Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz
Willkie Farr & Gallagher
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Re: The Super Rich
Boies, Schiller & Flexner - super-profitable lit boutiqueLaw Student 2848 wrote:“ 'The Super Rich'—a group that includes white-shoe New York firms, super-profitable mega-boutiques and firms that have grown from regional roots to become leading national players" --> Which firms are what on this list?
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft - overrated shit firm
Cahill Gordon & Reindel - sweatshop shit firm
Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton - white shoe NYC
Cravath, Swaine & Moore - white shoe NYC
Davis Polk & Wardwell - white shoe NYC
Debevoise & Plimpton - white shoe NYC
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher - regional LA firm that grew into a "national player" (I guess)
Kirkland & Ellis - regional Chicago firm that grew into a "national player" (I guess)
Latham & Watkins - regional LA firm that grew into a "national player" (I guess)
Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy - overrated shit firm
Paul Hastings - shit
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison - white shoe NYC
Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan - overrated shit firm
Schulte Roth & Zabel - shit
Simpson Thacher & Bartlett - white shoe NYC
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom - white shoe NYC
Sullivan & Cromwell - white shoe NYC
Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz - white shoe NYC
Willkie Farr & Gallagher - shit
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Re: The Super Rich
Saw Cadwalader. Saw super rich. Lol'd and lol'd. Saw Cadwalader.
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Re: The Super Rich
True white-shoe:
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft
Cravath, Swaine & Moore
Davis Polk & Wardwell
Debevoise & Plimpton
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher
Latham & Watkins
Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
Simpson Thacher & Bartlett
Sullivan & Cromwell
Willkie Farr & Gallagher
"New" white-shoe:
Cahill Gordon & Reindel
Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison
Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom
Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft
Cravath, Swaine & Moore
Davis Polk & Wardwell
Debevoise & Plimpton
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher
Latham & Watkins
Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
Simpson Thacher & Bartlett
Sullivan & Cromwell
Willkie Farr & Gallagher
"New" white-shoe:
Cahill Gordon & Reindel
Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison
Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom
Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz
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Re: The Super Rich
Latham started in LA and is less of an "old" white shoe firm than Gibson Dunn.
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Re: The Super Rich
Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:Latham started in LA and is less of an "old" white shoe firm than Gibson Dunn.
idk, I'm pretty sure that Wikipedia page is scientifically accurate. Was Latham WASPier than Gibson Dunn back in the day?
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Re: The Super Rich
Wow, didn't know a single person cared about the white shoe designation. The more you know.
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There must be some way we can empirically test this. Let's survey surviving relatives to see how many salmon colored polos and pairs of boat shoes each firm's founders owned.lawstudent_87 wrote:Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:Latham started in LA and is less of an "old" white shoe firm than Gibson Dunn.
idk, I'm pretty sure that Wikipedia page is scientifically accurate. Was Latham WASPier than Gibson Dunn back in the day?
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According to OP's article, people who are willing to pay lots of money for legal services care about this to some extent.Blindmelon wrote:Wow, didn't know a single person cared about the white shoe designation. The more you know.
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That would make Ropes a whiteshoe firm wouldn't it?Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:There must be some way we can empirically test this. Let's survey surviving relatives to see how many salmon colored polos and pairs of boat shoes each firm's founders owned.lawstudent_87 wrote:Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:Latham started in LA and is less of an "old" white shoe firm than Gibson Dunn.
idk, I'm pretty sure that Wikipedia page is scientifically accurate. Was Latham WASPier than Gibson Dunn back in the day?
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Blindmelon wrote:That would make Ropes a whiteshoe firm wouldn't it?Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:There must be some way we can empirically test this. Let's survey surviving relatives to see how many salmon colored polos and pairs of boat shoes each firm's founders owned.lawstudent_87 wrote:Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:Latham started in LA and is less of an "old" white shoe firm than Gibson Dunn.
idk, I'm pretty sure that Wikipedia page is scientifically accurate. Was Latham WASPier than Gibson Dunn back in the day?
Ropes is white-shoe but not Super Rich.
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Re: The Super Rich
lol? I don't get it...? Cadwalader had profits per equity partner of $2,610,000 and revenue per lawyer of $1,100,000. Cadwalader ranked 9th in profitability... Seems pretty legitimate to me.bjsesq wrote:Saw Cadwalader. Saw super rich. Lol'd and lol'd. Saw Cadwalader.
By the way, this is a pretty cool graph for anyone that is interested in seeing how all the firms compare:
http://www.americanlawyer.com/id=1202652364056
- OneMoreLawHopeful
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Re: The Super Rich
This is some pretty egregious pro-NYC trolling.Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:Boies, Schiller & Flexner - super-profitable lit boutiqueLaw Student 2848 wrote:“ 'The Super Rich'—a group that includes white-shoe New York firms, super-profitable mega-boutiques and firms that have grown from regional roots to become leading national players" --> Which firms are what on this list?
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft - overrated shit firm
Cahill Gordon & Reindel - sweatshop shit firm
Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton - white shoe NYC
Cravath, Swaine & Moore - white shoe NYC
Davis Polk & Wardwell - white shoe NYC
Debevoise & Plimpton - white shoe NYC
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher - regional LA firm that grew into a "national player" (I guess)
Kirkland & Ellis - regional Chicago firm that grew into a "national player" (I guess)
Latham & Watkins - regional LA firm that grew into a "national player" (I guess)
Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy - overrated shit firm
Paul Hastings - shit
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison - white shoe NYC
Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan - overrated shit firm
Schulte Roth & Zabel - shit
Simpson Thacher & Bartlett - white shoe NYC
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom - white shoe NYC
Sullivan & Cromwell - white shoe NYC
Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz - white shoe NYC
Willkie Farr & Gallagher - shit
EDIT: (White & Case is the only "traditional white shoe" NYC-based v20 firm that didn't make the list; outed as White & Case associate)
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Re: The Super Rich
Does it mean that firms like melveny, which saw a 10% decline in revenue, might tell their SA's they need to look elsewhere??
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Re: The Super Rich
yea OMM probably won't exist in 5 years
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Re: The Super Rich
because of this there are going to be 50 more pages of the firms to avoid because people freak out. That said, I give it 3 years.patogordo wrote:yea OMM probably won't exist in 5 years
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wasn't O'Melveny allegedly "on the brink" in 2011?
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Re: The Super Rich
Really, WSJ?The largest revenue gains in 2013 went to another group: the six megafirms that are structured as so-called vereins . . .
The verins charted a 24.9% increase in revenue . . .
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Pretty sure you just outed your firm here brah.Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:Boies, Schiller & Flexner - super-profitable lit boutiqueLaw Student 2848 wrote:“ 'The Super Rich'—a group that includes white-shoe New York firms, super-profitable mega-boutiques and firms that have grown from regional roots to become leading national players" --> Which firms are what on this list?
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft - overrated shit firm
Cahill Gordon & Reindel - sweatshop shit firm
Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton - white shoe NYC
Cravath, Swaine & Moore - white shoe NYC
Davis Polk & Wardwell - white shoe NYC
Debevoise & Plimpton - white shoe NYC
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher - regional LA firm that grew into a "national player" (I guess)
Kirkland & Ellis - regional Chicago firm that grew into a "national player" (I guess)
Latham & Watkins - regional LA firm that grew into a "national player" (I guess)
Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy - overrated shit firm
Paul Hastings - shit
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison - white shoe NYC
Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan - overrated shit firm
Schulte Roth & Zabel - shit
Simpson Thacher & Bartlett - white shoe NYC
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom - white shoe NYC
Sullivan & Cromwell - white shoe NYC
Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz - white shoe NYC
Willkie Farr & Gallagher - shit
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Re: The Super Rich
Wow if Melveny dumps their incoming class(2013 SA's).
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Not sure why'd they do that. Their SA salaries aren't that much. You'd have to worry more about no offers.MikeJD wrote:Wow if Melveny dumps their incoming class(2013 SA's).
But OMM has been declining for a while. It's not sudden. It would shock me if they overhired.
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