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BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:44 pm
by eljefe1
Hope ya'll find this useful, I know I do.



ATLANTA


http://biglawprospects.blogspot.com/

Re: Atlanta Biglaw: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:29 pm
by Anonymous User
Kilpatrick beats them all!

Re: Atlanta Biglaw: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:55 pm
by IAFG
Not totally sure what these graphs reflect? Is it 2L SAs? Both are labeled the same.

Re: Atlanta Biglaw: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:10 pm
by rad lulz
LOL 50 positions total

Re: Atlanta Biglaw: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:32 pm
by dead head
IAFG wrote:Not totally sure what these graphs reflect? Is it 2L SAs? Both are labeled the same.
Don't know what you're looking at the top one says "Summer 2Ls" and the bottom says "1st Year Associates."

Looks like a fair number of people who summer in Atlanta are either no-offered, clerk, or otherwise decide to start their careers elsewhere.

Re: Atlanta Biglaw: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:34 pm
by IAFG
dead head wrote:
IAFG wrote:Not totally sure what these graphs reflect? Is it 2L SAs? Both are labeled the same.
Don't know what you're looking at the top one says "Summer 2Ls" and the bottom says "1st Year Associates."

Looks like a fair number of people who summer in Atlanta are either no-offered, clerk, or otherwise decide to start their careers elsewhere.
Huh. That's what I see now but isn't what was displaying before. Maybe a mobile site glitch.

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:53 pm
by eljefe1

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:09 pm
by gregfootball2001
The Atlanta one seems...off, both low and high. I don't know what the numbers are for all the firms, but I'm pretty sure the 29 Nelson Mullins summer associate number is firm-wide, not in Atlanta. Could be wrong, though, so correct me if I'm off base. Also, not sure why firms like Sutherland and Kilpatrick wouldn't be on the list, just to name two off the top of my head. If accurate, it is interesting information to have.

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:15 pm
by MyNameIsFlynn!
gregfootball2001 wrote:The Atlanta one seems...off, both low and high. I don't know what the numbers are for all the firms, but I'm pretty sure the 29 Nelson Mullins summer associate number is firm-wide, not in Atlanta. Could be wrong, though, so correct me if I'm off base. Also, not sure why firms like Sutherland and Kilpatrick wouldn't be on the list, just to name two off the top of my head. If accurate, it is interesting information to have.
Agree this info can't be accurate. Missing Sutherland, Kilpatrick, Troutman just to name a few of the larger firms excluded; and no way Nelson Mullins has the largest summer class in Atl.

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:33 pm
by eljefe1
gregfootball2001 wrote:The Atlanta one seems...off, both low and high. I don't know what the numbers are for all the firms, but I'm pretty sure the 29 Nelson Mullins summer associate number is firm-wide, not in Atlanta. Could be wrong, though, so correct me if I'm off base. Also, not sure why firms like Sutherland and Kilpatrick wouldn't be on the list, just to name two off the top of my head. If accurate, it is interesting information to have.
You're right.. I pulled the data a while ago and didn't really look into certain firms' numbers in as much detail as I should have. That's what ya'll are for :) :lol: 8)

Also, I'm only reporting data present on the NALP Directory of Legal Employers, so it's entirely possible that multiple large firms are missing/haven't reported to NALP.

If anyone has the numbers for those firms, feel free to PM them to me and I'll add them to the excel sheet the charts are derived from.

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:34 am
by Old Gregg
eljefe1 wrote:
gregfootball2001 wrote:The Atlanta one seems...off, both low and high. I don't know what the numbers are for all the firms, but I'm pretty sure the 29 Nelson Mullins summer associate number is firm-wide, not in Atlanta. Could be wrong, though, so correct me if I'm off base. Also, not sure why firms like Sutherland and Kilpatrick wouldn't be on the list, just to name two off the top of my head. If accurate, it is interesting information to have.
You're right.. I pulled the data a while ago and didn't really look into certain firms' numbers in as much detail as I should have. That's what ya'll are for :) :lol: 8)

Also, I'm only reporting data present on the NALP Directory of Legal Employers, so it's entirely possible that multiple large firms are missing/haven't reported to NALP.

If anyone has the numbers for those firms, feel free to PM them to me and I'll add them to the excel sheet the charts are derived from.

So basically the website is useless. Gotcha.

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:14 am
by guano
zweitbester wrote:So basically the website is useless. Gotcha.

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:38 am
by IAFG
eljefe1 wrote:
gregfootball2001 wrote:The Atlanta one seems...off, both low and high. I don't know what the numbers are for all the firms, but I'm pretty sure the 29 Nelson Mullins summer associate number is firm-wide, not in Atlanta. Could be wrong, though, so correct me if I'm off base. Also, not sure why firms like Sutherland and Kilpatrick wouldn't be on the list, just to name two off the top of my head. If accurate, it is interesting information to have.
You're right.. I pulled the data a while ago and didn't really look into certain firms' numbers in as much detail as I should have. That's what ya'll are for :) :lol: 8)

Also, I'm only reporting data present on the NALP Directory of Legal Employers, so it's entirely possible that multiple large firms are missing/haven't reported to NALP.

If anyone has the numbers for those firms, feel free to PM them to me and I'll add them to the excel sheet the charts are derived from.
For first years anyway, you can count up the firm bios. And, you know, not just be mindlessly re-hashing NALP.

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:19 am
by dead head
IAFG wrote: For first years anyway, you can count up the firm bios. And, you know, not just be mindlessly re-hashing NALP.
Not all firms put first-years' bios up before they've been sworn in, and they definitely don't all put them up at the same time.

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:47 am
by JusticeHarlan
Missing Wilmer, Bingham, foley hoag, Goulston, Nutter, Nixon, Holland & Knight, etc.

Also spelled Latham wrong.

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:57 am
by IAFG
dead head wrote:
IAFG wrote: For first years anyway, you can count up the firm bios. And, you know, not just be mindlessly re-hashing NALP.
Not all firms put first-years' bios up before they've been sworn in, and they definitely don't all put them up at the same time.
And yet when they have it's better than the multi office stat.

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:43 pm
by eljefe1
zweitbester wrote:
eljefe1 wrote:
gregfootball2001 wrote:The Atlanta one seems...off, both low and high. I don't know what the numbers are for all the firms, but I'm pretty sure the 29 Nelson Mullins summer associate number is firm-wide, not in Atlanta. Could be wrong, though, so correct me if I'm off base. Also, not sure why firms like Sutherland and Kilpatrick wouldn't be on the list, just to name two off the top of my head. If accurate, it is interesting information to have.
You're right.. I pulled the data a while ago and didn't really look into certain firms' numbers in as much detail as I should have. That's what ya'll are for :) :lol: 8)

Also, I'm only reporting data present on the NALP Directory of Legal Employers, so it's entirely possible that multiple large firms are missing/haven't reported to NALP.

If anyone has the numbers for those firms, feel free to PM them to me and I'll add them to the excel sheet the charts are derived from.

So basically the website is useless. Gotcha.
No, I wouldn't quiet say it's useless. I think it's easier to look at NALP info in one location as opposed to sifting through pages of data.

Then again, that might just be my efficiency biased personality

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:44 pm
by eljefe1
IAFG wrote:
eljefe1 wrote:
gregfootball2001 wrote:The Atlanta one seems...off, both low and high. I don't know what the numbers are for all the firms, but I'm pretty sure the 29 Nelson Mullins summer associate number is firm-wide, not in Atlanta. Could be wrong, though, so correct me if I'm off base. Also, not sure why firms like Sutherland and Kilpatrick wouldn't be on the list, just to name two off the top of my head. If accurate, it is interesting information to have.
You're right.. I pulled the data a while ago and didn't really look into certain firms' numbers in as much detail as I should have. That's what ya'll are for :) :lol: 8)

Also, I'm only reporting data present on the NALP Directory of Legal Employers, so it's entirely possible that multiple large firms are missing/haven't reported to NALP.

If anyone has the numbers for those firms, feel free to PM them to me and I'll add them to the excel sheet the charts are derived from.
For first years anyway, you can count up the firm bios. And, you know, not just be mindlessly re-hashing NALP.

Would happily post the data you have about these offices. I'm assuming you do. Thanks.

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:08 pm
by IAFG
Well I'm not running a fucking website, am I. Jackass.

If you want to know how many first years there are at my firm, just post the wrong number and I will correct you promptly.

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:11 pm
by IAFG
eljefe1 wrote:
zweitbester wrote:
eljefe1 wrote:
gregfootball2001 wrote:The Atlanta one seems...off, both low and high. I don't know what the numbers are for all the firms, but I'm pretty sure the 29 Nelson Mullins summer associate number is firm-wide, not in Atlanta. Could be wrong, though, so correct me if I'm off base. Also, not sure why firms like Sutherland and Kilpatrick wouldn't be on the list, just to name two off the top of my head. If accurate, it is interesting information to have.
You're right.. I pulled the data a while ago and didn't really look into certain firms' numbers in as much detail as I should have. That's what ya'll are for :) :lol: 8)

Also, I'm only reporting data present on the NALP Directory of Legal Employers, so it's entirely possible that multiple large firms are missing/haven't reported to NALP.

If anyone has the numbers for those firms, feel free to PM them to me and I'll add them to the excel sheet the charts are derived from.

So basically the website is useless. Gotcha.
No, I wouldn't quiet say it's useless. I think it's easier to look at NALP info in one location as opposed to sifting through pages of data.

Then again, that might just be my efficiency biased personality
Could become a useful tool. Isn't yet. If a thing is worth doing, it's worth doing correctly. Wonder if firms would give you accurate data if you called recruiting.

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:25 pm
by eljefe1
IAFG wrote:Well I'm not running a fucking website, am I. Jackass.

If you want to know how many first years there are at my firm, just post the wrong number and I will correct you promptly.

Well aren't you just a charming little schizo.

Also, I wouldn't necessarily classify it a "website" in full. More accurately, it's an ongoing project that I came to TLS with in an effort to promulgate and collect more accurate data. Promptly add value to the project or exit the conversation. Thanx, B.

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:50 pm
by guano
eljefe1 wrote:
IAFG wrote:Well I'm not running a fucking website, am I. Jackass.

If you want to know how many first years there are at my firm, just post the wrong number and I will correct you promptly.

Well aren't you just a charming little schizo.

Also, I wouldn't necessarily classify it a "website" in full. More accurately, it's an ongoing project that I came to TLS with in an effort to promulgate and collect more accurate data. Promptly add value to the project or exit the conversation. Thanx, B.
So you came to TLS to hock your misinformation, and then get insulted when people try to explain why it's wrong?

It's less than useless until you fix it. If you ever get around to doing it properly, it could be really useful. Until then, accept the criticism it deserves and shut the fuck up

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:33 pm
by dead head
There is such a thing as constructive criticism. It's not a terrible idea and, while it could certainly be improved, telling the guy it's useless, etc. isn't super helpful. But, to use TLS parlance, everyone on the internet is an Aspie, so I suppose he shouldn't have expected anything else.

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:34 pm
by hous
The alphas in this thread are real.

Re: BigLaw Lawlz: 2L Summers + 1st year Associates, by the #'s

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:38 pm
by A. Nony Mouse
eljefe1 wrote:Also, I wouldn't necessarily classify it a "website" in full. More accurately, it's an ongoing project that I came to TLS with in an effort to promulgate and collect more accurate data. Promptly add value to the project or exit the conversation. Thanx, B.
Well, it would have helped if you started out by saying that, rather than presenting it as a complete and accurate representation of the numbers and only backpedaling once people pointed out the errors.