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How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:37 pm
by Anonymous User
How many suits does a male Summer Associate need? The position is for 10 weeks. Thanks in advance.

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:41 pm
by patogordo
1? unless biz formal, then maybe 3

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:53 pm
by Anonymous User
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Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:01 pm
by 84651846190
all of the suits

in all seriousness: 1 (at the vast majority of firms)

if you're at a DC firm where people take themselves too srsly, maybe 2 or more

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:03 pm
by BuckinghamB
a friend is going to a biz formal firm and was told to have about 3 or 4. this is also a southern market, so maybe it's really traditional?

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:20 pm
by SemperLegal
IMHO, number of suits pales in comparison with number of dress shirts and ties. Much cheaper, can be used for a dressed-down, but professional look, and are much more likely to be noticed. You really only need enough suits to ensure that you won't be screwed if you need a suit two days in a row, stained one, and don't have access to same-day cleaner.

ETA: Not a summer associate yet.

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:23 pm
by Law Sauce
I had several and mixed and matched. You need a number of dress pant and shirts and maybe a sports coat or 2. Then you would also want at least one full suit for sure

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:25 pm
by Florence Night
Even at a business formal firm, two is fine. Just have a lot of shirts and ties. No one cares that you wear either a navy or charcoal suit every day.

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:10 am
by masterbrowski
1st yr. associate weighing in.

For a formal firm, you need two suits: one charcoal, one navy. You'll also need about 6-8 shirts and ties. Cycle the shirt and tie combos out, and people will forget that you only own 2 suits. You can re-wear the suits for about 2 weeks max, then you'll need to take them to a weekend dryclean spot. Best practice is to dry clean suits every 3-4 wears. Shirts, on the other hand, can only be worn about twice max before they get nasty. No one expects you to have a lot of nice clothes, but your dress shirt should be very clean and wrinkle-free. That's why you keep 6-8 dress shirts, and do your dry cleaning every week. They are paying you enough. Dry clean your clothes for greater justice.

At non-formal firms, you need ONE suit as a summer. Keep it hanging in your office in case a partner drops by and asks you to go to court, a deposition, a closing, a client meeting, etc. Hanging alongside the suit should be a matching dress shirt and tie. I can't stress that second part enough. It's no good that you have a suit in your office if the only shirt you have with you is a button-down gingham, and no tie to boot. On a related note, if you're at a firm that does casual Fridays, consider keeping a spare pair of cheap-o dress shoes and matching cheap-o belt. I once was approached to shadow a lawyer at court, but I was wearing boat shoes and a fat leather belt that wouldn't fit my suit's belt loops. Thankfully, another summer with similar measurements had my back. Be the good summer, don't be me.

Finally, in all scenarios, you'll need at least two pairs of shoes: a pair of black oxfords and a pair of brown oxfords.

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:27 am
by dead head
masterbrowski wrote: You can re-wear the suits for about 2 weeks max, then you'll need to take them to a weekend dryclean spot. Best practice is to dry clean suits every 3-4 wears. Shirts, on the other hand, can only be worn about twice max before they get nasty. No one expects you to have a lot of nice clothes, but your dress shirt should be very clean and wrinkle-free. That's why you keep 6-8 dress shirts, and do your dry cleaning every week. They are paying you enough. Dry clean your clothes for greater justice.
Suits should be dry-cleaned as infrequently as possible, as the chemicals and processing involved are not good for them. Maybe once or twice a year. Spot cleaning and pressing when necessary is much better. Dry cleaning every 3 or 4 wears is extremely hard on your clothes and totally unneccessary unless you are the world's messiest, sweatiest person.

Dry cleaning shirts is silly, and there's a reason the care labels on most shirts recommend machine washing.

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:33 am
by Frayed Knot
masterbrowski wrote: Shirts, on the other hand, can only be worn about twice max before they get nasty. No one expects you to have a lot of nice clothes, but your dress shirt should be very clean and wrinkle-free. That's why you keep 6-8 dress shirts, and do your dry cleaning every week.
dead head wrote:Dry cleaning shirts is silly, and there's a reason the care labels on most shirts recommend machine washing.
This depends on the summer associates ability/willingness to iron competently, though, right?

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:37 am
by 911 crisis actor
No, just ask for them to be machine washed at the cleaners instead of dry cleaned

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:53 pm
by kalvano
Frayed Knot wrote:
masterbrowski wrote: Shirts, on the other hand, can only be worn about twice max before they get nasty. No one expects you to have a lot of nice clothes, but your dress shirt should be very clean and wrinkle-free. That's why you keep 6-8 dress shirts, and do your dry cleaning every week.
dead head wrote:Dry cleaning shirts is silly, and there's a reason the care labels on most shirts recommend machine washing.
This depends on the summer associates ability/willingness to iron competently, though, right?

Brooks Brothers no-irons are the correct answer.

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:33 pm
by wbrother
911 crisis actor wrote:No, just ask for them to be machine washed at the cleaners instead of dry cleaned
Why?!

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:03 pm
by XxSpyKEx
dead head wrote:
masterbrowski wrote: You can re-wear the suits for about 2 weeks max, then you'll need to take them to a weekend dryclean spot. Best practice is to dry clean suits every 3-4 wears. Shirts, on the other hand, can only be worn about twice max before they get nasty. No one expects you to have a lot of nice clothes, but your dress shirt should be very clean and wrinkle-free. That's why you keep 6-8 dress shirts, and do your dry cleaning every week. They are paying you enough. Dry clean your clothes for greater justice.
Suits should be dry-cleaned as infrequently as possible, as the chemicals and processing involved are not good for them. Maybe once or twice a year. Spot cleaning and pressing when necessary is much better. Dry cleaning every 3 or 4 wears is extremely hard on your clothes and totally unneccessary unless you are the world's messiest, sweatiest person.
True that they should be dry-cleaned infrequently as possible, but suits get nasty after after a few wears. I can't go more than 3-4 days without dry cleaning (and I don't sweat that much). The jacket tends to be fine, since it's worn over a dress shirt anyways, but the pants get nasty after 3-4 wears, since you actually sweat in those... I feel like it's the same as trying to wear a pair of jeans more than 3-4 times without washing them. They just get nasty because the oils and sweat from your body get on them (even if you are in air conditioning and not sweating much).
dead head wrote:
masterbrowski wrote: You can re-wear the suits for about 2 weeks max, then you'll need to take them to a weekend dryclean spot. Best practice is to dry clean suits every 3-4 wears. Shirts, on the other hand, can only be worn about twice max before they get nasty. No one expects you to have a lot of nice clothes, but your dress shirt should be very clean and wrinkle-free. That's why you keep 6-8 dress shirts, and do your dry cleaning every week. They are paying you enough. Dry clean your clothes for greater justice.
Suits should be dry-cleaned as infrequently as possible, as the chemicals and processing involved are not good for them. Maybe once or twice a year. Spot cleaning and pressing when necessary is much better. Dry cleaning every 3 or 4 wears is extremely hard on your clothes and totally unneccessary unless you are the world's messiest, sweatiest person.

Dry cleaning shirts is silly, and there's a reason the care labels on most shirts recommend machine washing.
Agreed. But definitely worth the $1.10 (or whatever nominal price your dry cleaner charges for shirts) to have them wash and press it. I'm always impressed that people actually wash and press their own dress shirts to save such a small amount of money-- I feel like all the time I save by not washing and pressing my own shirts is easily worth the $5-8 I would have saved by doing it myself.
911 crisis actor wrote:No, just ask for them to be machine washed at the cleaners instead of dry cleaned
You don't even have to ask. Just give them your clothes. Unless you specifically ask for dry cleaning on a shirt, the dry cleaner will wash and press it (unless it's a weird dry clean only fabric). They know what they're doing (most of the time, at least); just let them do their jobs.

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:39 pm
by UMich11
if you're looking for a suit, check out IndoChino: http://share.indochino.com/x/M6tY8q

If you're looking for new dress shirts, I like these in addition to Brooks Brothers (slimmer fits): http://a.bono.bs/x/Nlyd1H


As much as the CDO says to go to Banks and get the basic suit; get one which fits and fits well, same with shirts. If you dress well for an interview, and also over the summer people will respect you more. Also always make sure your shoes are well polished.

user has been outed and warned for posting links without stating they're referral links

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:16 pm
by BVest
kalvano wrote: Brooks Brothers no-irons are the correct answer.
Always.

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:20 pm
by Mal Reynolds
masterbrowski wrote:You can re-wear the suits for about 2 weeks max, then you'll need to take them to a weekend dryclean spot. Best practice is to dry clean suits every 3-4 wears.
You should dry clean your suits as few times as humanly possible. This is terrible advice.

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:25 pm
by schweitziro
kalvano wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
masterbrowski wrote: Shirts, on the other hand, can only be worn about twice max before they get nasty. No one expects you to have a lot of nice clothes, but your dress shirt should be very clean and wrinkle-free. That's why you keep 6-8 dress shirts, and do your dry cleaning every week.
dead head wrote:Dry cleaning shirts is silly, and there's a reason the care labels on most shirts recommend machine washing.
This depends on the summer associates ability/willingness to iron competently, though, right?

Brooks Brothers no-irons are the correct answer.

J.Crew as well.

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:49 pm
by splitsplat
Anonymous User wrote:if you're looking for a suit, check out IndoChino: http://share.indochino.com/x/M6tY8q

If you're looking for new dress shirts, I like these in addition to Brooks Brothers (slimmer fits): http://a.bono.bs/x/Nlyd1H


As much as the CDO says to go to Banks and get the basic suit; get one which fits and fits well, same with shirts. If you dress well for an interview, and also over the summer people will respect you more. Also always make sure your shoes are well polished.
out this greedy bro for trying to make referral money without being upfront about it

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:11 pm
by 911 crisis actor
Great catch - was just about to order 2 suits + 10 shirts using those links

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:16 pm
by A. Nony Mouse
Yeah, just so it's clear: you can post referral links on TLS, as long as you make clear that you receive a benefit from them (and you probably shouldn't post them anonymously).

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:21 pm
by UMich11
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Yeah, just so it's clear: you can post referral links on TLS, as long as you make clear that you receive a benefit from them (and you probably shouldn't post them anonymously).

didn't know about having to be upfront about it. sorry about that

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:33 am
by kalvano
Mal Reynolds wrote:
masterbrowski wrote:You can re-wear the suits for about 2 weeks max, then you'll need to take them to a weekend dryclean spot. Best practice is to dry clean suits every 3-4 wears.
You should dry clean your suits as few times as humanly possible. This is terrible advice.
It kind of depends on location. When it's summer in Texas, every 3-4 wears is spot-on.

Re: How many suits does a Summer Associate need?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:00 am
by jbagelboy
kalvano wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:
masterbrowski wrote:You can re-wear the suits for about 2 weeks max, then you'll need to take them to a weekend dryclean spot. Best practice is to dry clean suits every 3-4 wears.
You should dry clean your suits as few times as humanly possible. This is terrible advice.
It kind of depends on location. When it's summer in Texas, every 3-4 wears is spot-on.
I cannot imagine suiting up in Dallas in July. What a nightmare. I suppose it's AC from the home to the car to the office without interruption, like the inverse of Minneapolis in January.