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This seems to be a practice area that doesn't seem to get much play here on TLS. I'm going to be at one of the large L&E (think Littler, Ogletree, etc.) firms in a major market this summer and am wondering if anyone has any insights.

In particular, I'm curious what the payscale is like, I realize that they start you south of 160 but really don't have any details other than that. Also, there is only going to be one other student with me apparently. Does anyone have any experience being a summer associate in a situation like this?

Any additional advice would be appreciated as well.

Anonymous User wrote:This seems to be a practice area that doesn't seem to get much play here on TLS. I'm going to be at one of the large L&E (think Littler, Ogletree, etc.) firms in a major market this summer and am wondering if anyone has any insights.

In particular, I'm curious what the payscale is like, I realize that they start you south of 160 but really don't have any details other than that. Also, there is only going to be one other student with me apparently. Does anyone have any experience being a summer associate in a situation like this?

Any additional advice would be appreciated as well.

there are a few threads on here touching on this, but I worked as an SA at one last year. paid about 120 pro-rated in a major market (CA). work is definitely different and so are the hours so the pay is probably still good for the lifestyle. just do your work well, ask when you have a question, and stay on time with assignments. they didn't tell you about pay when you accepted?

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Anonymous User wrote:This seems to be a practice area that doesn't seem to get much play here on TLS. I'm going to be at one of the large L&E (think Littler, Ogletree, etc.) firms in a major market this summer and am wondering if anyone has any insights.

In particular, I'm curious what the payscale is like, I realize that they start you south of 160 but really don't have any details other than that. Also, there is only going to be one other student with me apparently. Does anyone have any experience being a summer associate in a situation like this?

Any additional advice would be appreciated as well.

there are a few threads on here touching on this, but I worked as an SA at one last year. paid about 120 pro-rated in a major market (CA). work is definitely different and so are the hours so the pay is probably still good for the lifestyle. just do your work well, ask when you have a question, and stay on time with assignments. they didn't tell you about pay when you accepted?

Thanks for the response. They told me about pay as a SA but I was more curious about associate pay. Also, would you say these type of firms generally have a lower billable hour expectation for associates?

In my case the weekly first year pay is exactly the same as the weekly SA pay. The only difference is that SAs did not get paid for holidays.

I assume you checked NALP, but it's worth mentioning in case you haven't.

OP here. I checked NALP

I worked both summers as one of the large L&E firms (Littler/Jackson Lewis/Ogletree) in the Southeast. Pay is slightly below market (associates start at $105k-ish) and 2L summers made the same as first-year associates, with 1L summers making $100 less a week. I was the only SA both summers, which was jarring and awesome at the same time --I didn't have anyone in the trenches with me, but I also didn't have to compete against anyone.